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welcome everyone to the california mufon

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radio show i'm your host lori and

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i am so happy you guys are with me here

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tonight one of my favorite people on the

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show this evening that's preston dennett

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and we'll get to preston and his new

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books oh my god this guy i'm telling you

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you know it's like every time i turn

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around he goes oh yeah i got a new book

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out he almost apologizes for it these

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days i think we're on 33 or some you

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know crazy thing like that so

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oh my god now jim leadwith is calling me

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and i wonder you know what can i add him

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to the call um mj

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is that a possibility

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without cutting us off

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no i guess not okay

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i was gonna um

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bring him on the show if he wants to

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call me when i'm in the middle of the

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show my buddy ufo jim i'm going to um

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always bring him on let's see what he

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needs ufo gym

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i

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am on

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live radio

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do you still have uh uh jim lead with um

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uh ufo jim's skype there uh mj

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i can't see your text you know guys i

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love being uh

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talking to my producer in skype because

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it's like you gotta go looking for him

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you know

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it's like i know he's talking to me i

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know he's typing to me somewhere i just

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don't know where it is anyhow so uh yeah

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let's see what ufo jim wants is he see

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if he wants anything of importance maybe

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he has something important to tell me oh

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you guys you know i was very sad to hear

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that joyce riley died this week ah i was

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so upset couldn't believe it i mean i

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don't even know if it's true or not but

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some very good friends of mine that are

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you know used to go on her show

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all the time emailed out a you know

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condolence email

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when it happened

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and i just i feel so bad she's one of

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the first people out there you know the

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power hour doing her thing you know

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about the same time right after i

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believe that um

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oh my god what was it it was

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well i'm looking at all these faces

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blasts from the past uh bill cooper

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the guy with the eye patch i can't

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remember his name in arizona there were

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all these people about the same time in

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the mid 90s that started radio shows she

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may have been more

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later on she may have been in the early

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2000s after 9 11 but still joyce was a

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very powerful woman very great voice

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loved the fact that she was a woman and

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she was getting her voice heard out

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there and fighting the fight along with

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the the big boys and the networks like

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alex jones and all those guys and rents

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and you know the list goes on and on so

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anyhow um i still haven't heard from mj

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whether i can call jim leadwith or if he

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has jim led with some

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skype but um

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okay well i'm not getting any response

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from jim so it doesn't really matter um

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let's see what i want to talk about

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tonight okay i've got a whole bunch of

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things to discuss

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number one is and preston i hope you

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don't mind i've got i've got rants to

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rant and

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messages to to give so it'll be a few

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more minutes before we get to you but uh

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you guys all know the mufon symposium is

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coming up but you guys have got to be

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there now promise me if you can get

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there you will be there live because

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this will be

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i promise you this is going to be the

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mufon symposium of the century i think

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unless they get themselves in any more

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hot water which we we got to let them

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you know do their thing you know i

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finally realized with an organization

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like this that's been as round around as

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long as they have they've done some

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really despicable things but they're

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still here yeah i mean they're still

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here and it has really nothing to do

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as i always say with the way it's being

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run and the people at the top of the the

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food chain and the whole bit it really

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is all about you guys and me

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and the people who are going to the

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meetings once a month that go out and

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look uh do the the investigations and

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the people who do the sky watches and

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the people do all the really you know

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the down and dirty stuff

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that is out there to do about ufo

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research so you guys you know don't

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throw the baby out with the bath water

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you know mufon's really in a lot of hot

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water i mean there was just another uh

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about them hitting the internet the

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other day and you know i just i don't

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like the way they're doing things but

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hey you know what it's all going to work

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itself out at some point in the end and

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hopefully and i'm making a suggestion

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right now and i hope jan harrison or

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somebody at the top of the food chain is

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actually listening to my show tonight

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because i have said this to jan

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women email

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and by the way jan has been lovely

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enough to give me a couple press passes

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for the conference and i really do

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appreciate him being able to do that um

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uh okay now jim's calling me again mj

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can i answer it or will this put my

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current call on hold

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um add to group call

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oh too late he hung up

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producer sorry you guys needs to add you

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okay let's see if i can get him to okay

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now mj's talking to me

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i love it i'm going from

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empty you're killing me suv what does

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that mean

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oh uh what's up

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okay you guys i'm telling you i'm having

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a fellini moment i swear to god i'm

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having one of those fellini moments

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people are communicating with me people

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are jim ledwith is calling again

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okay so mj what do i do do you um do you

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have connection with him can you call

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him

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for me nope you can't okay i'm gonna add

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him to the group call if it oh he keeps

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hanging up if i drop him i mean if i

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okay okay so that's what we're gonna do

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jim ludwig ufo jim calls me back must be

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something urgent or he won't be calling

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as much as he is

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i've never had him call me like five

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times in a row like that

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i will add you if you call back okay

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let's see if he does all right so we're

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going to take a chance with ufo jim if

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he does call back there must be

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something very important going on in the

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ufo world anyhow back to mufon um as i

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was saying the mufon symposium truly is

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the the symposium of the century because

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there's so many things going on with

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poor mufon right now and like i said you

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guys have got to support mufon in spite

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of all the insanity there's got to be a

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way to support mufon at the lower level

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at my food chain level and uh and do

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that and oh what i was saying before jim

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called back again was that i have als

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already mentioned to

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jan harzin like i said was kind enough

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to give me press passes to the

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conference and um

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he hasn't taken me up on the offer yet

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but here's my offer and this is for

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everybody at mufon i think it's time

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in lieu of a lot of the problems that

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mufan's had over the years i noticed

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that ha a good third of them are

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gender-based issues where the women have

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been feeling like they are

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oh and yeah here's something interesting

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you guys ufo jim is calling me on my

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cell phone i'm going to take

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30 seconds to answer it and you guys can

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hear me while i talk to him hi jim we're

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live on air they can't hear you but they

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can hear me how are you doing um um i'm

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gonna have mj the producer of the show

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pick you up and bring you on to the show

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for a few minutes how's that sound

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oh no no no no i've got preston denadon

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as my guest this evening

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i i want to do just 10 minutes i want to

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okay guys jim

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jim thought that i was trying to get him

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on air for to be my guest this evening

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if that wasn't the case

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so what we're doing is we're gonna bring

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him on i have a couple questions to ask

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him about at the mufon symposium so this

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will be kind of interesting so anyhow as

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i was saying what i've offered to uh to

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move on and the whole group there is

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that um

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they help start building up the women's

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contingency of it you know think of us

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as the mastodonic lodge we'll be the

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eastern stars but we could be more like

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the galactic gals or something like that

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i don't care what you want to call us

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but i think it's time that we have that

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and i think there there should be a

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gender balance board

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i think that's very important i have

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noticed that in this new article about

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mufon they talk about an advisory board

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and they're quite a few women on it and

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i'm and i'm surprised

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because the art advisory board that

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they're not hooting and hollering about

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some things a little more but hey

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maybe we just need a little bit of

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the feminine touch you know a little bit

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more alien feminism

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on the move on board or just at least a

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voice within it i think it's very

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important and i think a balance board

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would be wonderful because i think men

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have a tendency this is just for me

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working with them my entire life and

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running all their businesses for them

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and doing everything for them by the way

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i have come to the conclusion that

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you've had 12 men in a room or 13 men in

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a room together

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they will never take care of the details

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they will always leave that to the

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people underneath them they never take

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care of it themselves and that's nothing

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against them it's just that they just

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were never taught to do the details they

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were always said you're a leader you you

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delegate and i get that but at it when i

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move on a situation you can't be

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delegating all the time because things

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never get done things never happened and

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when they do happen they're kind of

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haphazard because the details aren't

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being taken care of so i think a lot of

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the the jobs within mufon should go to

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women because i think they'd get done

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better faster and more efficiently and

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that's just my take on it folks because

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i i've been doing this for a very long

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time i've been running businesses since

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i was 15 years old when i started

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working with my father and his business

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so i'm telling you i know what i'm

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talking about i've seen it over and over

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again i've been the administrative

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director of one two three four five nine

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six non-profits

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in the last 30 years and i did five-year

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stints with all these folks and i ran

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their non-profits i know how to do it

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and i know what needs to be done and i

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know that when i inherited a board full

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of men things were not getting done and

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if they were getting done they were only

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getting done because the women on the

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committees were making it happen and i'm

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sorry that's just the way i see it so

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that's the way we're gonna do it hey mj

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um i told jim that you would be calling

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him can you do that for me

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can you bring him on

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uh do you have his uh uh profile his uh

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um

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[Music]

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let me let me see what you're saying to

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me i cannot with skype oh that's

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interesting i wonder if i can let me

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just drag him in and see what happens

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here we go i'm just going to do it

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let's see what happens i think i can do

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it i think it's working is it working mj

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oh it will work for me oh wait wonderful

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hello hello

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hello mr jim ludwig how are you this

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evening i'm really good do you realize

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that i thought it was me and steve

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bassett tonight am i confused

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oh my god is that interesting i haven't

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booked you um on the show for some time

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i'm trying to figure let me go look at

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my calendar folks maybe

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preston tonight i'm telling you it was

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me for the first hour and steve bassett

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for the second

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was it really okay you know what we're

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gonna have to reschedule you guys but

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now that i've got you on the air i gotta

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ask you a question first of all can you

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turn down your speakers so i don't have

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to hear myself

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okay

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wonderful

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we don't want you to hear yourself there

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you go it's very disconcerting when when

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you're on radio and you're hearing

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yourself in the background yeah you're

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right art bell used to yell at people

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all the time yeah radio

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right i was i was thinking about getting

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that curmudgeony about it you know like

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god dang it turn down your radio you

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know

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but

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i think i've had one abduction too many

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i thought it was tonight i thought steve

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was right after me

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well i i you know i'm totally missed but

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you know i'm gonna go check my calendar

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maybe i double booked or something i've

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been known to do that on occasion but

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very seldom but you never know but what

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i want to ask you is are you going to

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the mufon symposium this year

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uh

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i am i'm going to be in seattle

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washington i want to go that's the one

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in vegas that was it uh

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yes yes yes yes that is going to be a

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fabulous event i want to go but it's a

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big family event and i had to i mean i'm

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usually always going to choice

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yeah i didn't i didn't make the cut last

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year because i was doing another event

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ufo event

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and this year they said there is no way

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you're gonna get out of this

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so i'm gonna be in seattle washington

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having a lot of fun

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okay well that's good because i wanted

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to ask have you been following all the

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mufon flaps that have been going on

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several of them you mean the ones about

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the body in south america and things

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like that no no no that sounds very

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interesting but no i'm talking about uh

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when erica luke's was kind of uh you

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know she parted ways with mufon and then

378
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john ventry uh parted ways as a director

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and then we've had all these crazy

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things going on within the whole mufon

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structure itself as a political

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organization as a non-profit

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organization i'm just wondering if you

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paid any attention to it at all no

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between the extraterrestrials and the

386
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research work i've not paid as much

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attention as possibly i should have

388
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oh well that's okay i just wondered if

389
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you did because you know i'm asking you

390
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because i wanted the man on the street

391
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who's a regular ufo guy you know can you

392
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know i consider you that i also consider

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you a researcher and a presenter and all

394
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those things combined and a curator of

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films and the whole bit but you know

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you're pretty much like

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most of the people out there you got a

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life you got things to do you don't pay

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attention to all this all the time and i

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was just wondering it you know at what

401
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level do people really know about what's

402
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going on with mufon and does it matter

403
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and i think that's that's an important

404
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question to ask because i think mufon is

405
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banking on the fact that most people

406
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don't know what's going on

407
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and i think that's probably a good

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policy in the end because like i was

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telling people earlier these are just

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you know typical flaps that happen with

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non-profit organizations and in the end

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they if they've got a strong base

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they're still standing and the base

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within mufon is really the people that

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create it like you know me like having

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my meetings every month and people

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getting together and sharing their

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experiences that's what mufon's really

419
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all about in the end you know

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yeah so there you go so are you going to

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roswell at all

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well you know i better get going if i'm

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going to roswell uh

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know a bunch of people that are

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in roswell

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right started right about now

427
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oh i thought it started tomorrow okay so

428
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well there are people getting there

429
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right now yeah yeah right right just

430
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getting getting there aren't a lot of

431
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hotel rooms there's a real

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problem there because you know everybody

433
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converges on roswell and they just don't

434
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have the you know

435
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the the the the

436
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places where hotel rooms the b and b's

437
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uh

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airbnb

439
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yeah they don't have much of anything in

440
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roswell if i remember correctly i think

441
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they have three hotels and that's about

442
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it and they're lucky they have

443
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they have i think a little more than

444
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that but i mean here we are we're in the

445
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70th year of roswell

446
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oh wow 70 years

447
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and all it was was a crash with bodies

448
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four bodies you know but there we go

449
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you know what i don't get is um

450
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why

451
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everybody knows about it but nobody

452
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thinks it's that extraordinary anymore i

453
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guess mufon's doing its magic or

454
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something

455
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because nobody you know they go there to

456
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celebrate the aliens but you know we

457
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keep forgetting jim that we could be

458
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just like in that twilight zone happens

459
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to serve man you know we don't even know

460
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what they're doing and we're out there

461
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jumping up and down and celebrating them

462
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don't get on board the 727 that they did

463
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for serving man but that said here's the

464
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thing if it can be categorically proved

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that the roswell crash did happen

466
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then a cascading series of remarkable

467
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possibilities would become certainties

468
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that's

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and those certainties are energy

470
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uh

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the administration lying to us from

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administration to administration and in

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reality we don't live in a democracy

474
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it's an illusion we really live in some

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oligarchy

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i mean

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it is really really really really sad i

478
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mean that this has gone on and it goes

479
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on and on and on you have project signed

480
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project grudge i think they named the

481
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grudge because they were having a good

482
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day

483
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[Laughter]

484
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and it goes on and on i mean it is

485
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absolutely amazing that

486
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that we are doing this and anybody can

487
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go to youtube and i i encourage anyone

488
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that would want to do this to do it go

489
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to youtube and look up

490
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uh the 50th anniversary well actually

491
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look up uh

492
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the pentagon

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press conference with colonel john

494
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haynes

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force the pentagon

496
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news conference 19 june 22nd i believe

497
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it was 1997

498
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where the colonel literally lies through

499
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his teeth

500
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i mean he's talking about it right isn't

501
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that it was talk about

502
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a give up and uh and oh my god i mean

503
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he's talking about bodies by the way

504
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they never started talking about bodies

505
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till

506
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the late 80s early 90s to any degree but

507
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so here he is in 97 and they and they

508
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had reporters in the audience and you

509
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can see this cnn's in the audience uh

510
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nbc abc they're right there this is

511
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great and they're asking they're saying

512
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we can't understand colonel how

513
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there's reports of bodies and you're

514
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saying that crash test dummies and

515
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reality was a crash test dummies were

516
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invented in 1953. by the way that was

517
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sierra sam 1953 that's right yeah

518
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absolutely but the event took place in

519
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1990

520
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1947

521
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july or june

522
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what do you say about that colonel the

523
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colonel said well well people get mixed

524
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up and what we have here is a problem

525
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and it's called time compression

526
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time compression in other words the

527
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every time i say that word to myself

528
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time compression i started laughing

529
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[Music]

530
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and then he goes on to say well it could

531
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have been bodies that people got to see

532
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in a crash that air force personnel died

533
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in 1956

534
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and then there was another crash in 1959

535
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and i'm just going

536
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omg

537
00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:08,880
you got to be effing kidding me i mean

538
00:21:13,350 --> 00:21:11,440
what are you doing they absolutely hurt

539
00:21:15,029 --> 00:21:13,360
themselves so much but you know what

540
00:21:16,950 --> 00:21:15,039
they didn't hurt themselves so much i

541
00:21:19,510 --> 00:21:16,960
shouldn't say so much they help hurt

542
00:21:22,390 --> 00:21:19,520
themselves somewhat because in reality

543
00:21:23,669 --> 00:21:22,400
the secret's still somewhat intact

544
00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:23,679
it is

545
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like because we have no proof and until

546
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the day that we absolutely see the films

547
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that were taken at the base for this

548
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whole event and you know they did they

549
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filmed everything i mean they they

550
00:21:43,510 --> 00:21:40,799
filmed jfk being assassinated so i know

551
00:21:45,669 --> 00:21:43,520
they filmed roswell you know i mean they

552
00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:45,679
filmed everything the minute film became

553
00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:47,440
a reality

554
00:21:53,350 --> 00:21:50,720
for this country for anybody the uh all

555
00:21:56,149 --> 00:21:53,360
the organizations had it you know it was

556
00:21:57,430 --> 00:21:56,159
just absolutely used for everything so

557
00:21:59,990 --> 00:21:57,440
yes

558
00:22:01,909 --> 00:22:00,000
bottom line my website in real quick oh

559
00:22:03,909 --> 00:22:01,919
yeah i was just going to say i was i was

560
00:22:06,070 --> 00:22:03,919
just going to say and jim the bottom

561
00:22:07,990 --> 00:22:06,080
line is we got to get to my next guest

562
00:22:10,390 --> 00:22:08,000
or my guest and i'm so sorry for your

563
00:22:12,070 --> 00:22:10,400
next guest who i've been you know taking

564
00:22:13,909 --> 00:22:12,080
time off but anyway okay i already

565
00:22:15,990 --> 00:22:13,919
warned him i was going to do a rant and

566
00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:16,000
then you started calling i'm going god i

567
00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:18,080
i thought something happened very big i

568
00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:20,480
was like jim's something's going on

569
00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:21,840
something must have happened and he's

570
00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:23,200
trying to get a hold of me on the show

571
00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:24,799
to let me know

572
00:22:30,549 --> 00:22:26,880
i'm

573
00:22:33,830 --> 00:22:32,230
don't even get me started on that

574
00:22:36,789 --> 00:22:33,840
because you know we have friends that

575
00:22:38,830 --> 00:22:36,799
have said that

576
00:22:40,710 --> 00:22:38,840
okay here it is

577
00:22:42,390 --> 00:22:40,720
ufojimsonoma.com

578
00:22:44,390 --> 00:22:42,400
ufo

579
00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:44,400
noma dot com it's a lot easier than my

580
00:22:49,110 --> 00:22:46,480
other one which is there too ufos are

581
00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:49,120
real.com but the ufos are real it's a

582
00:22:52,230 --> 00:22:50,320
double r

583
00:22:55,350 --> 00:22:52,240
like in toys r us

584
00:22:58,789 --> 00:22:55,360
uh and it was too confusing so ufo jim

585
00:23:01,110 --> 00:22:58,799
sonoma s-o-n-o-m-a dot-com

586
00:23:03,430 --> 00:23:01,120
that is the website and my calendars on

587
00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:03,440
there all kinds of information

588
00:23:05,990 --> 00:23:04,320
and

589
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:06,000
there's the radio show book for tonight

590
00:23:09,990 --> 00:23:08,480
that you're not even on so absolutely

591
00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:10,000
i don't know what steve bassett's doing

592
00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:11,760
right now i think he's in la i don't

593
00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:14,320
think i hope yeah i hope he's not

594
00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:15,600
thinking he's on the show tonight

595
00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:16,960
because he'll have to he'll be calling

596
00:23:20,070 --> 00:23:17,919
in too

597
00:23:21,430 --> 00:23:20,080
preston won't get a word in edgewise no

598
00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:21,440
you're you're done you might as well

599
00:23:25,270 --> 00:23:24,000
just go home and let him take over

600
00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:25,280
exactly

601
00:23:29,430 --> 00:23:26,960
okay sweetheart well it was great

602
00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:29,440
talking to you and thanks for coming on

603
00:23:33,590 --> 00:23:31,039
and i'll talk to you soon i was going to

604
00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:33,600
call you anyhow so expected to hear from

605
00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:36,240
me jingle jingle this weekend okay

606
00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:37,760
jingle okay look forward to it and

607
00:23:41,110 --> 00:23:39,280
everyone enjoyed me

608
00:23:42,710 --> 00:23:41,120
okay take care goodbye

609
00:23:45,830 --> 00:23:42,720
good night

610
00:23:48,230 --> 00:23:45,840
there we go okay so folks here we are

611
00:23:50,230 --> 00:23:48,240
as mj and preston still with me preston

612
00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:50,240
are you there

613
00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:51,440
i'm here

614
00:23:55,510 --> 00:23:53,200
oh wonderful hey thanks for putting up

615
00:23:58,390 --> 00:23:55,520
with all that

616
00:24:00,390 --> 00:23:58,400
hey no worries i had no idea i'd booked

617
00:24:02,710 --> 00:24:00,400
jim lead with and steve bassett this

618
00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:02,720
evening but you know wonderful that the

619
00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:05,039
the jim was right there on cue calling

620
00:24:09,510 --> 00:24:06,960
in and i kept wondering what was going

621
00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:09,520
on and you know so there we are so

622
00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:11,919
anyhow i'm just going to finish up with

623
00:24:16,149 --> 00:24:14,000
that i want everybody to come to the

624
00:24:18,149 --> 00:24:16,159
mufon symposium please come to it

625
00:24:21,029 --> 00:24:18,159
because i'm telling you it is going to

626
00:24:22,230 --> 00:24:21,039
be a whopper of

627
00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:22,240
an event

628
00:24:26,870 --> 00:24:24,640
between all the political stuff and all

629
00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:26,880
the speakers that are there that you

630
00:24:30,390 --> 00:24:28,640
guys might want to look in to see who's

631
00:24:33,110 --> 00:24:30,400
speaking there corey goods going to be

632
00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:33,120
there andrew bashago um

633
00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:36,080
mr wood tompkins i mean it's going to be

634
00:24:39,909 --> 00:24:37,600
one of those

635
00:24:41,190 --> 00:24:39,919
crazy crazy years where i think

636
00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:41,200
everything's going to blow up and we'll

637
00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:42,960
talk to preston a little bit about this

638
00:24:47,070 --> 00:24:45,120
in the show but i want you to get there

639
00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:47,080
if you can that's mufon

640
00:24:52,430 --> 00:24:50,640
symposium.com that's mufonsymposium.com

641
00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:52,440
and one last thing i will be

642
00:24:57,190 --> 00:24:55,120
broadcasting live from there and i'm

643
00:24:59,430 --> 00:24:57,200
going to try to get as many reactions to

644
00:25:01,990 --> 00:24:59,440
what's going on there as i can

645
00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:02,000
also if you can't make it here's one

646
00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:04,080
last thing you can do

647
00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:06,000
be subscribe

648
00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:08,080
to the uh well if

649
00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:10,480
it's it's a package deal it's not up on

650
00:25:15,029 --> 00:25:12,559
the website yet i heard it was but it

651
00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:15,039
isn't there yet you can buy the live

652
00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:17,120
stream for 79

653
00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:20,000
it includes a membership to mufon

654
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:22,799
which is a 35 value you get to watch the

655
00:25:27,430 --> 00:25:25,200
whole conference online in the comfort

656
00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:27,440
of your own home on your computer

657
00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:29,760
and the whole nine yards so i would

658
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:31,760
highly recommend if you can't make it if

659
00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:33,840
you just really cannot make it to be

660
00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:35,840
there so you can look me dead in the eye

661
00:25:39,269 --> 00:25:37,840
and say oh my god you were right all

662
00:25:42,310 --> 00:25:39,279
along

663
00:25:44,470 --> 00:25:42,320
which i love hearing by the way

664
00:25:46,390 --> 00:25:44,480
after years of being told i'm the crazy

665
00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:46,400
one you know it's always two years later

666
00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:48,320
my friends can be and say lori we're

667
00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:51,200
right all along anyhow um

668
00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:53,200
so i i just hope you guys can be there

669
00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:55,440
in person if you can't like i said do

670
00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:57,840
the live stream go to mufonsymposium.com

671
00:26:01,990 --> 00:25:59,919
the live stream should be up there and

672
00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:02,000
buy that and be sure to watch because

673
00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:03,919
this is going to be quite extraordinary

674
00:26:07,669 --> 00:26:06,080
there's a lot of people going there not

675
00:26:09,269 --> 00:26:07,679
just to hear the speakers but to

676
00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:09,279
confront them that's all i'm going to

677
00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:12,080
say about that okay so preston how are

678
00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:14,880
you doing this evening

679
00:26:19,269 --> 00:26:17,279
doing good yeah doing well

680
00:26:21,110 --> 00:26:19,279
how's work going

681
00:26:24,310 --> 00:26:21,120
oh you know pays the bills so i'm not

682
00:26:26,230 --> 00:26:24,320
going to complain i'll try to you and

683
00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:26,240
you and i have the same kind of drudgery

684
00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:28,640
job i must say i think aren't you into

685
00:26:33,269 --> 00:26:30,720
some kind of accounting and all that

686
00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:33,279
yeah bookkeeping you know yeah i mean

687
00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:34,320
it's got its

688
00:26:38,789 --> 00:26:37,039
joys it's you know i love it i'll tell

689
00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:38,799
you why i love it because preston i go

690
00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:41,520
to my office i turn on quickbooks i do

691
00:26:45,190 --> 00:26:43,520
my thing and everything balances and

692
00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:45,200
it's done and i can walk home at the end

693
00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:46,880
of the day and go okay i'm finished with

694
00:26:50,950 --> 00:26:49,360
my work you know i mean unless there's a

695
00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:50,960
whole bunch of weird things going on

696
00:26:54,390 --> 00:26:52,640
which i gotta deal with but you know

697
00:26:56,549 --> 00:26:54,400
usually it's pretty cut and dry and

698
00:26:57,510 --> 00:26:56,559
that's what i love about it very zen as

699
00:26:58,870 --> 00:26:57,520
i say

700
00:26:59,990 --> 00:26:58,880
yeah it's a puzzle you get to put

701
00:27:03,669 --> 00:27:00,000
together

702
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:03,679
exactly it and it really it works the is

703
00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:05,200
it the left side of your brain or the

704
00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:06,480
right i can't remember which side it

705
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:08,960
works but it really works your your uh

706
00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:10,080
you know

707
00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:13,840
money money numbers uh the very logical

708
00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:16,240
down and dirty side that you know likes

709
00:27:20,149 --> 00:27:18,480
numbers and that kind of thing so it's

710
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:20,159
really good for me it keeps me you know

711
00:27:27,909 --> 00:27:26,470
because i'm i'm a true space cookie and

712
00:27:29,909 --> 00:27:27,919
if it wasn't for bookkeeping i don't

713
00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:29,919
think i'd have two feet on the ground at

714
00:27:33,830 --> 00:27:31,760
any given time so

715
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:33,840
anyhow so i'm just loving having you

716
00:27:39,789 --> 00:27:35,760
here so everybody what i want you to do

717
00:27:43,269 --> 00:27:42,230
prestondent.weebly.com that's preston

718
00:27:45,269 --> 00:27:43,279
dennett

719
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:45,279
two n's and two t's

720
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:51,750
and in about 30 seconds preston we're

721
00:27:55,190 --> 00:27:53,440
going to take a break but when we get

722
00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:55,200
back from the break i want to first

723
00:27:59,909 --> 00:27:57,840
start with how this kind of all began

724
00:28:01,269 --> 00:27:59,919
for you this whole ufo thing that you're

725
00:28:04,230 --> 00:28:01,279
involved with just in case someone

726
00:28:06,070 --> 00:28:04,240
hasn't heard you before on my show so

727
00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:06,080
that they can just get a you know quick

728
00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:08,080
idea of who you are and then i want to

729
00:28:13,590 --> 00:28:10,799
go into your new books because my god

730
00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:13,600
this one looks absolutely extraordinary

731
00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:14,720
and

732
00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:17,200
there's one that you did a while back

733
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:18,720
about healing

734
00:28:23,350 --> 00:28:21,200
um oh my god

735
00:28:26,149 --> 00:28:23,360
i just saw your sister's artwork cover

736
00:28:27,669 --> 00:28:26,159
god that's amazing oh my god anyhow and

737
00:28:29,029 --> 00:28:27,679
you did one about healing i want to talk

738
00:28:31,269 --> 00:28:29,039
about a little bit about that when we

739
00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:31,279
come back from the break as well so here

740
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:32,399
we go folks we're going to take our

741
00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:34,480
first break of the night and we'll be

742
00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:36,480
back with preston bennett and i promise

743
00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:39,360
no more interruptions you got plenty to

744
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:41,200
hear this evening so stick around we'll

745
00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:47,110
welcome back everyone to the california

746
00:28:51,350 --> 00:28:49,520
mufon radio show i'm your host lorian

747
00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:51,360
fenton really happy you guys are with me

748
00:28:56,230 --> 00:28:53,360
here tonight i want to thank irn for

749
00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:56,240
having me all these years and i just

750
00:28:59,110 --> 00:28:57,520
love being here with you guys on

751
00:29:01,269 --> 00:28:59,120
wednesday nights i want you to know that

752
00:29:03,510 --> 00:29:01,279
and don't forget get your app get the

753
00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:03,520
irn app and if you can become a member

754
00:29:08,389 --> 00:29:05,840
of the insiders club because that would

755
00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:08,399
be really helpful here at irn it always

756
00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:10,480
keeps the electricity flowing as they

757
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:13,200
say and the server humming so there you

758
00:29:18,389 --> 00:29:15,360
go that would be really really nice you

759
00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:18,399
can also listen to pang radio um

760
00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:20,720
replays on the insider's club which is

761
00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:22,480
always informative

762
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:24,640
okay let's get back to preston dennett

763
00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:28,080
and preston has some amazing books

764
00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:31,520
oh yes i forgot subscribe to youtube you

765
00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:34,320
guys get over to the irn

766
00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:36,080
youtube channel is it just inception

767
00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:38,480
radio network mj

768
00:29:42,549 --> 00:29:40,960
because yes it is okay perfect great so

769
00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:42,559
go to inception radio net work on

770
00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:44,320
youtube and subscribe subscribe

771
00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:46,240
subscribe i guess we need subscribers

772
00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:48,799
over there i don't know what for does it

773
00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:50,480
make a difference if we have many or

774
00:29:54,549 --> 00:29:52,320
little uh mj

775
00:29:55,990 --> 00:29:54,559
yes oh it does

776
00:29:58,149 --> 00:29:56,000
many okay

777
00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:58,159
uh i'm not even gonna ask why because i

778
00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:00,720
don't do youtube so i'm not a big you

779
00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:03,279
know oh it keeps you running oh okay it

780
00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:05,360
pays the bills is what it does you guys

781
00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:06,799
okay got it

782
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:09,600
yeah okay perfect so that's it so go to

783
00:30:13,510 --> 00:30:11,760
youtube it'll help it'll keep us keep us

784
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:13,520
around you know we'd love to keep

785
00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:15,600
ourselves around here so and you know

786
00:30:19,590 --> 00:30:17,919
what's fun about irn they've been around

787
00:30:20,830 --> 00:30:19,600
for a long time how many years has it

788
00:30:24,630 --> 00:30:20,840
been

789
00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:24,640
mj let's see what he says

790
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:27,760
a six oh my god so i i've been with you

791
00:30:33,110 --> 00:30:31,600
guys for a good good portion of the

792
00:30:34,870 --> 00:30:33,120
wow the seventh

793
00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:34,880
seven in december so i've been with you

794
00:30:40,549 --> 00:30:37,360
about five now i think wow

795
00:30:43,430 --> 00:30:40,559
amazing okay i can't believe it

796
00:30:45,669 --> 00:30:43,440
thank god um for um

797
00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:45,679
oh god who's our buddy who's dead now

798
00:30:49,510 --> 00:30:47,200
god can you think of his name i can see

799
00:30:50,789 --> 00:30:49,520
his face jerry pippen thank god for

800
00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:50,799
jerry pippen because he's the one who

801
00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:52,720
brought me to you guys so i just i'd

802
00:30:57,990 --> 00:30:54,960
love all of you anyhow okay back to

803
00:30:59,909 --> 00:30:58,000
preston okay preston hat

804
00:31:01,990 --> 00:30:59,919
celebrate the holiday with great savings

805
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:02,000
during lowe's go forth event make your

806
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807
00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:06,720
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808
00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:08,799
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809
00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:10,640
guests are gonna be hungry so be

810
00:31:15,269 --> 00:31:12,399
prepared to grill with a two pack of

811
00:31:17,110 --> 00:31:15,279
kingsford charcoal now for just 9.88 all

812
00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:17,120
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813
00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:19,200
with lows patio and charcoal offers

814
00:31:22,549 --> 00:31:20,960
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815
00:31:26,950 --> 00:31:22,559
charcoal offer limited to two bags per

816
00:31:31,029 --> 00:31:29,590
there's 20 books out right now folks i'm

817
00:31:33,190 --> 00:31:31,039
sitting here i'm looking at them all

818
00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:33,200
again and oh my god i thought it was 33

819
00:31:38,310 --> 00:31:36,000
it's really 20 but it should be 33 it

820
00:31:40,630 --> 00:31:38,320
will be anytime soon right

821
00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:40,640
preston

822
00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:42,399
yeah

823
00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:44,399
well pretty soon it'll be 50 and then

824
00:31:48,389 --> 00:31:45,600
you're probably gonna have to take a

825
00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:48,399
break for a while i think you know

826
00:31:53,269 --> 00:31:50,880
once you get 50 then i think you can sit

827
00:31:56,470 --> 00:31:53,279
back and you know just be the consummate

828
00:31:58,630 --> 00:31:56,480
you know ufo traveling conference

829
00:32:00,710 --> 00:31:58,640
speaker what do you think

830
00:32:03,269 --> 00:32:00,720
i'll give it a try as long as the aliens

831
00:32:05,750 --> 00:32:03,279
leave me alone

832
00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:05,760
well now let's talk about that how did

833
00:32:08,950 --> 00:32:07,600
you get into this in the first place and

834
00:32:10,710 --> 00:32:08,960
do you think the aliens have been

835
00:32:12,310 --> 00:32:10,720
bugging you this whole time or do you

836
00:32:15,509 --> 00:32:12,320
think they're going to leave you alone i

837
00:32:17,909 --> 00:32:15,519
mean obviously your sister is an amazing

838
00:32:20,389 --> 00:32:17,919
artist and she draws aliens like she's

839
00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:20,399
seen them so do you think it's a family

840
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:23,120
affair i mean i i seriously think it is

841
00:32:27,909 --> 00:32:25,440
but hey what do you think

842
00:32:29,669 --> 00:32:27,919
um well i was in denial for a long time

843
00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:29,679
but yeah

844
00:32:35,110 --> 00:32:32,480
i really didn't believe in this stuff uh

845
00:32:36,549 --> 00:32:35,120
and uh i've now come to obviously the

846
00:32:37,990 --> 00:32:36,559
conclusion that i'm having some level of

847
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:38,000
contact

848
00:32:41,350 --> 00:32:39,600
um certainly

849
00:32:44,230 --> 00:32:41,360
but yeah i was skeptical of it for a

850
00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:44,240
very long time until well do you get um

851
00:32:47,909 --> 00:32:46,000
let me just i'm going to ask you some

852
00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:47,919
crazy questions first of all these are

853
00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:49,600
what i ask all my friends who think they

854
00:32:53,830 --> 00:32:51,840
are being contacted do you have a lot of

855
00:32:55,029 --> 00:32:53,840
dreams about aliens

856
00:32:58,070 --> 00:32:55,039
yeah

857
00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:58,080
i do do you have um

858
00:33:03,750 --> 00:33:00,720
what i would call dreams that seem more

859
00:33:06,070 --> 00:33:03,760
vivid than almost real type of dreams

860
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:06,080
with aliens

861
00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:14,070
a couple do you have recall at all about

862
00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:16,559
waking up and feeling like there's

863
00:33:22,830 --> 00:33:19,360
somebody in the room with you

864
00:33:26,389 --> 00:33:22,840
uh no i can't really say that

865
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:26,399
okay um do you have times where you're

866
00:33:30,789 --> 00:33:28,799
thinking about something that that has

867
00:33:31,830 --> 00:33:30,799
to do with aliens and you wonder to

868
00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:31,840
yourself

869
00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:34,000
why in the heck am i thinking about this

870
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:36,080
because i shouldn't even you know i

871
00:33:39,830 --> 00:33:37,600
shouldn't even know about it let alone

872
00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:39,840
think about it

873
00:33:43,509 --> 00:33:40,880
um

874
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:43,519
yeah and actually yeah once the previous

875
00:33:51,590 --> 00:33:48,070
that did happen once

876
00:33:54,149 --> 00:33:51,600
yeah i forgot i did oh very interesting

877
00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:54,159
okay well it sounds to me like if you

878
00:33:58,630 --> 00:33:55,919
answered like four of those five

879
00:33:59,590 --> 00:33:58,640
questions you you've had contact of some

880
00:34:01,990 --> 00:33:59,600
sort

881
00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:02,000
and you could be like me you could be

882
00:34:06,630 --> 00:34:04,000
the person like me that just can't

883
00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:06,640
remember a darn thing ever

884
00:34:11,270 --> 00:34:08,879
and i'm very grateful for that to be

885
00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:11,280
very honest with you people approach me

886
00:34:14,710 --> 00:34:12,800
all the time and go why don't you get

887
00:34:16,790 --> 00:34:14,720
regressed and do all this stuff and i'm

888
00:34:18,869 --> 00:34:16,800
like nope don't want to know

889
00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:18,879
don't care to know don't need to know

890
00:34:22,149 --> 00:34:21,119
it's not going to change my world any

891
00:34:24,790 --> 00:34:22,159
you know i'm still going to be a

892
00:34:27,349 --> 00:34:24,800
bookkeeper when i wake up tomorrow and i

893
00:34:29,589 --> 00:34:27,359
i still got to pay the bills so do i

894
00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:29,599
really want to know about it probably

895
00:34:35,349 --> 00:34:32,560
not not at least not right now what's

896
00:34:37,990 --> 00:34:35,359
your take on it do you want to know

897
00:34:39,750 --> 00:34:38,000
i would do it absolutely but not unless

898
00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:39,760
i can point to something where like oh

899
00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:41,599
you know i had a missing time well i

900
00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:42,720
mean

901
00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:44,879
i've had a number of sightings some very

902
00:34:48,869 --> 00:34:46,960
close up there was one time this is very

903
00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:48,879
early on i mean probably a year after i

904
00:34:51,909 --> 00:34:50,480
got into this

905
00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:51,919
where i had this little ball of light

906
00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:54,240
come right up to my windshield

907
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:56,800
i mean maybe two feet away

908
00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:58,800
it darted back and forth

909
00:35:02,470 --> 00:35:01,040
just a couple times and scooted off and

910
00:35:03,990 --> 00:35:02,480
i didn't you know i didn't tell anyone

911
00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:04,000
about it and i kind of forgot about it

912
00:35:07,109 --> 00:35:05,680
to be honest

913
00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:07,119
right i've always i've always thought

914
00:35:11,750 --> 00:35:09,680
about that and someone pointed out that

915
00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:11,760
that i think was misha actually misha

916
00:35:15,430 --> 00:35:12,880
johnston

917
00:35:17,670 --> 00:35:15,440
yeah she's like you know well maybe that

918
00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:17,680
was more than just deciding

919
00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:19,760
because i don't remember

920
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:21,119
anything other than

921
00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:23,680
seeing that

922
00:35:26,470 --> 00:35:25,040
so i don't know i could have had missing

923
00:35:30,790 --> 00:35:26,480
time

924
00:35:32,950 --> 00:35:30,800
either preston but i've come to the

925
00:35:35,510 --> 00:35:32,960
conclusion of and so misha and melinda

926
00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:35,520
and all the girls all i call the the the

927
00:35:40,310 --> 00:35:37,920
ufo gal pack you know we're kind of like

928
00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:40,320
the rat pack but we're more like the gal

929
00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:43,040
ufo rat back i don't know what we are

930
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:45,280
but we've really come to the conclusion

931
00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:47,680
is that they are so good at changing our

932
00:35:51,270 --> 00:35:48,880
reality

933
00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:51,280
and you could have been gone for

934
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,040
you know five hours and they would have

935
00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:55,680
popped you back in time back to exactly

936
00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:58,480
where you were depending on the alien

937
00:36:01,750 --> 00:35:59,839
i think what we've come to the

938
00:36:03,670 --> 00:36:01,760
conclusion is different types of aliens

939
00:36:04,710 --> 00:36:03,680
have different technologies of putting

940
00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:04,720
you back

941
00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:06,880
some of them you know forget to give you

942
00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:08,880
the right clothes some of them give you

943
00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:10,480
missing time

944
00:36:15,430 --> 00:36:13,520
some of them is seem to not care about

945
00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:15,440
whether you you get back at the same

946
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:16,960
time you left

947
00:36:21,349 --> 00:36:19,520
and others are very meticulous about

948
00:36:23,270 --> 00:36:21,359
putting you back at the same time you

949
00:36:25,670 --> 00:36:23,280
left so that you just have no idea you

950
00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:25,680
were even gone it's like a fraction of a

951
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:28,720
second uh in your reality in theirs it

952
00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:30,240
could have been five hours it could have

953
00:36:36,069 --> 00:36:33,680
been five months who knows you know

954
00:36:37,990 --> 00:36:36,079
oh yeah i know all about the time travel

955
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:38,000
i'm gonna put several k well at least

956
00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:40,560
two cases like that in the book oh

957
00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:41,920
wonderful well that's what we're going

958
00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:44,640
to talk about but quickly again

959
00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:46,480
so um so you believe you're being

960
00:36:50,310 --> 00:36:48,480
contacted and that's kind of like is

961
00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:50,320
that the calling that you've gotten

962
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:52,480
about writing all these books i mean do

963
00:36:57,430 --> 00:36:55,200
you think it's are they pressuring you

964
00:37:01,430 --> 00:36:57,440
to do this

965
00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:01,440
are you doing this against your own will

966
00:37:06,069 --> 00:37:03,440
you know i have i have i have joked

967
00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:06,079
about that and it's not entirely a joke

968
00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:08,720
really i mean i know i know trust me i

969
00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:10,320
know if all the people i've ever talked

970
00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:12,720
to you're you're like my kindred soul

971
00:37:17,349 --> 00:37:15,520
because or kindred spirit because i do

972
00:37:19,589 --> 00:37:17,359
all that i do and i have no idea why i'm

973
00:37:21,109 --> 00:37:19,599
doing it because i if i had half a brain

974
00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:21,119
i wouldn't be doing any of it that's

975
00:37:24,310 --> 00:37:22,400
exactly you know

976
00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:24,320
i started out i'm like well this is

977
00:37:27,430 --> 00:37:25,839
horrendous i mean we're being invaded by

978
00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:27,440
aliens no one's talking about it i can't

979
00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:28,560
believe this

980
00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:30,240
but it and it hit home because you know

981
00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:32,160
there was my brother was tina ufo my

982
00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:33,839
sister-in-law saw aliens my other

983
00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:37,200
sister-in-law saw aliens my nephew is

984
00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:38,880
you know i mean yeah it's in my family

985
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:40,880
obviously

986
00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:44,640
but not me and i really have no reason

987
00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:47,520
um to pursue this but i just couldn't

988
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:50,320
let it go i could not let it go and now

989
00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:52,640
i'm i finally accepted okay i was years

990
00:37:55,109 --> 00:37:53,440
ago

991
00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:55,119
i think after a real close-up sighting

992
00:37:59,829 --> 00:37:55,760
and

993
00:38:02,310 --> 00:37:59,839
it became really clear to me that the

994
00:38:03,430 --> 00:38:02,320
ets were the very least aware of my

995
00:38:05,589 --> 00:38:03,440
research

996
00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:05,599
i mean the choice or if not guiding it

997
00:38:09,349 --> 00:38:07,200
you know i absolutely believe they're

998
00:38:11,510 --> 00:38:09,359
guiding you exactly

999
00:38:13,589 --> 00:38:11,520
at least the good ones i mean because

1000
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:13,599
you know it's interesting i i have been

1001
00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:15,359
told by a

1002
00:38:19,349 --> 00:38:18,000
an alien being that it did not appear to

1003
00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:19,359
me physically

1004
00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:21,520
it just i could feel it it was in the

1005
00:38:25,990 --> 00:38:23,359
car while i was driving it was scared to

1006
00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:26,000
be jesus out of me i felt hands come

1007
00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:28,400
around my you know my stomach and my

1008
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:31,040
chest and then i felt this kind of cold

1009
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:34,640
reptilian skin up against my cheek

1010
00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:36,720
and i heard

1011
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:38,320
i don't talk about this often i'm going

1012
00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:40,640
to tell you guys though um

1013
00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:42,720
i heard he loved you and it was all kind

1014
00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:45,200
of a hissy breathy sound

1015
00:38:49,510 --> 00:38:47,520
in my head and then it said

1016
00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:49,520
you know you're helping us we're we're

1017
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:51,040
the um

1018
00:38:56,630 --> 00:38:54,160
reptilian rebels and you're helping us

1019
00:38:58,870 --> 00:38:56,640
we love you and and something to that

1020
00:39:00,950 --> 00:38:58,880
effect and then it disappeared and i'm

1021
00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:00,960
like what the heck

1022
00:39:05,190 --> 00:39:03,119
did i what just i thought i was going

1023
00:39:06,950 --> 00:39:05,200
nuts to be honest with you and then i

1024
00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:06,960
found out later from some other people

1025
00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:08,640
including barbara lamb that this is

1026
00:39:13,270 --> 00:39:11,359
pretty common actually and i was like oh

1027
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:13,280
thank god i really thought i was losing

1028
00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:15,760
my mind but the most interesting part to

1029
00:39:20,470 --> 00:39:17,599
it was not the fact that i felt it or

1030
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:20,480
experienced it it's what he said to me

1031
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:22,320
because i thought to myself well that

1032
00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:25,200
explains a whole hell of a lot because i

1033
00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:26,800
don't want to be doing this this isn't

1034
00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:28,400
anything i ever

1035
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:30,320
woke up one day and said oh i think i'll

1036
00:39:34,870 --> 00:39:32,560
become one of those crazy ufo people and

1037
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:34,880
run around the country talking about

1038
00:39:39,109 --> 00:39:36,960
ufos and aliens to everybody i can see

1039
00:39:40,550 --> 00:39:39,119
and have a radio show about it and you

1040
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:40,560
know

1041
00:39:45,910 --> 00:39:43,040
this and this will become my life right

1042
00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:45,920
now put on conferences for it i mean in

1043
00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:48,400
my wildest dreams this is just not even

1044
00:39:52,950 --> 00:39:50,720
close to what i would be doing right now

1045
00:39:55,510 --> 00:39:52,960
because as everybody knows on this show

1046
00:39:57,670 --> 00:39:55,520
i am i'm an old hippie and all i want to

1047
00:39:59,109 --> 00:39:57,680
do is make goat soap and pottery and

1048
00:40:01,430 --> 00:39:59,119
jewelry yeah

1049
00:40:03,430 --> 00:40:01,440
and i'm an ex-professional dancer and

1050
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:03,440
i'd love to belly dance in an old ladies

1051
00:40:08,390 --> 00:40:05,680
belly dancing class you know and stuff

1052
00:40:10,150 --> 00:40:08,400
like that and you know i mean it's just

1053
00:40:12,150 --> 00:40:10,160
you know i was a ballerina too but the

1054
00:40:14,230 --> 00:40:12,160
belly dancing was the fun stuff

1055
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:14,240
and uh you know this is like the

1056
00:40:18,790 --> 00:40:16,720
furthest thing from my imagination where

1057
00:40:20,310 --> 00:40:18,800
i would have ended up honest to god you

1058
00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:20,320
know i thought i'd be in an ashram

1059
00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:23,200
somewhere yeah

1060
00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:25,760
so what was your dreams for your life

1061
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:28,480
besides this did you have something else

1062
00:40:32,310 --> 00:40:30,480
you wanted to do

1063
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:32,320
uh well i was directed to just kicking

1064
00:40:37,030 --> 00:40:35,200
and screaming absolutely not really

1065
00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:37,040
it was bad news as far as i was

1066
00:40:41,589 --> 00:40:39,680
concerned i know see that's what i said

1067
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:41,599
to myself too i woke up one day i said

1068
00:40:45,190 --> 00:40:43,119
what have i done this is like a

1069
00:40:47,589 --> 00:40:45,200
nightmare i'm living my worst nightmare

1070
00:40:49,829 --> 00:40:47,599
i'm i'm out here promoting

1071
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:49,839
the thing that i think that most people

1072
00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:51,599
look at you and then they feel sorry for

1073
00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:54,960
you and they walk away you know

1074
00:40:58,230 --> 00:40:56,640
all right i kind of always knew i was

1075
00:40:59,990 --> 00:40:58,240
going to do something like this i don't

1076
00:41:01,990 --> 00:41:00,000
know i mean i

1077
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:02,000
was very shy growing up never really

1078
00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:04,640
wanted to do public speaking on you know

1079
00:41:08,390 --> 00:41:05,520
tv

1080
00:41:11,190 --> 00:41:08,400
all this stuff god oh my god you have no

1081
00:41:13,750 --> 00:41:11,200
idea how horrible this was for me

1082
00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:13,760
i have to have therapy just because i

1083
00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:15,280
have to speak in front of people every

1084
00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:17,520
week on the radio and and speak them at

1085
00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:19,760
conferences and things like that i mean

1086
00:41:24,470 --> 00:41:22,000
literally this is the last thing i i

1087
00:41:26,309 --> 00:41:24,480
have a speech impediment i mean i'm like

1088
00:41:28,069 --> 00:41:26,319
are you kidding me

1089
00:41:30,150 --> 00:41:28,079
you know if they told me i was gonna be

1090
00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:30,160
doing all this i would have said no way

1091
00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:32,079
you know just no freaking way in hell

1092
00:41:36,470 --> 00:41:34,000
would i be doing this and i think you

1093
00:41:38,069 --> 00:41:36,480
you told me once too that you most of

1094
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:38,079
the people i've ever talked in the ufo

1095
00:41:41,829 --> 00:41:39,440
community that are out there very

1096
00:41:43,990 --> 00:41:41,839
voiceless and outspoken and writing

1097
00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:44,000
books and doing things in the community

1098
00:41:47,910 --> 00:41:45,440
mostly are people that had speech

1099
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:47,920
impediments or stuttered or had

1100
00:41:52,150 --> 00:41:50,400
something going on or were very nerdy

1101
00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:52,160
and and thought the last thing i'm going

1102
00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:54,319
to do is get up on the stage in front of

1103
00:41:57,750 --> 00:41:55,760
people and talk

1104
00:42:00,790 --> 00:41:57,760
and look at you now i mean look at me

1105
00:42:03,190 --> 00:42:00,800
now it's like it's amazing you know the

1106
00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:03,200
transformation is absolutely phenomenal

1107
00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:04,960
but go ahead i'm i'm domineering this

1108
00:42:09,829 --> 00:42:07,359
conversation i'm so sorry

1109
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:09,839
oh no no it's interesting yeah because

1110
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:12,000
uh i feel the same way i'm i'm right now

1111
00:42:15,670 --> 00:42:13,920
i'm thrilled to be honest to god this is

1112
00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:15,680
a great time in my life

1113
00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:18,079
yeah i feel like i've really grown from

1114
00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:19,680
this and i would never

1115
00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:21,920
consider you know it happening any other

1116
00:42:25,589 --> 00:42:22,800
way

1117
00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:25,599
oh exactly yeah it was a wake-up call

1118
00:42:28,069 --> 00:42:26,880
you know what i mean

1119
00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:28,079
yeah

1120
00:42:33,990 --> 00:42:32,160
it's translated in so many ways

1121
00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:34,000
don't you feel like though that you had

1122
00:42:38,309 --> 00:42:36,240
some kind of like i want to say almost

1123
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:38,319
angelic alien

1124
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:40,240
intervention at some point where

1125
00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:41,920
suddenly you wake up and you're almost a

1126
00:42:47,829 --> 00:42:45,200
different person because of all this

1127
00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:47,839
oh yeah i remember this how hard it hit

1128
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:49,839
me it was like a ton of bricks i

1129
00:42:53,829 --> 00:42:52,079
remember reading you know travis

1130
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:53,839
walton's book and betty and barney hill

1131
00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:54,720
and just

1132
00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:56,800
looking up the cloudy sky no knowing

1133
00:42:59,750 --> 00:42:58,880
that these guys are up there

1134
00:43:01,990 --> 00:42:59,760
yeah

1135
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:02,000
never really dreaming at that point that

1136
00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:04,480
i would play any kind of role in the

1137
00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:05,359
whole

1138
00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:06,960
you know just i don't know what you call

1139
00:43:12,710 --> 00:43:09,680
the ufo movement

1140
00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:12,720
oh exactly it's growing i mean

1141
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:15,040
people don't buy ufo books like they buy

1142
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:18,240
say science fiction or romance novels or

1143
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:21,359
but it's growing and it's gonna reach a

1144
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:23,440
point where this does bust into the

1145
00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:24,720
mainstream

1146
00:43:29,430 --> 00:43:27,200
i just

1147
00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:29,440
can you imagine i mean i i asked people

1148
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:31,440
in the ufo community all the time can

1149
00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:34,560
you imagine if tomorrow if bassett and

1150
00:43:39,670 --> 00:43:36,880
greer and all those guys actually make a

1151
00:43:40,710 --> 00:43:39,680
dent and disclosure happened can you

1152
00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:40,720
imagine

1153
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:43,920
your books would be flying off of the

1154
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:45,359
shelf i mean you wouldn't even be able

1155
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:47,040
to keep them in stock don't be able to

1156
00:43:51,990 --> 00:43:49,599
print them fast enough seriously

1157
00:43:53,829 --> 00:43:52,000
everybody who has a ufo book out there

1158
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:53,839
would just be inundated because

1159
00:43:58,390 --> 00:43:56,480
everybody on the planet would be going

1160
00:43:59,910 --> 00:43:58,400
well how do i find out about this stuff

1161
00:44:02,870 --> 00:43:59,920
and then they'd be looking to the whole

1162
00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:02,880
ufo community that's already established

1163
00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:05,119
and these people would become their

1164
00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:08,240
answers you know which that scares me in

1165
00:44:11,750 --> 00:44:09,680
a big way

1166
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:11,760
i'd be out of a job which is which is

1167
00:44:15,510 --> 00:44:13,200
fine because you know this is not really

1168
00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:15,520
what i you know intended to do

1169
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:17,920
i'm not that i ever you know

1170
00:44:21,910 --> 00:44:19,920
i don't know well i don't know i think

1171
00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:21,920
you would be much more in demand i think

1172
00:44:26,309 --> 00:44:24,079
i'd be out of a job i think i could sit

1173
00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:26,319
up sit back and say well my work is done

1174
00:44:31,109 --> 00:44:28,240
and i can go you know retire and do

1175
00:44:34,550 --> 00:44:31,119
something else right but for you as an

1176
00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:34,560
author of 20 amazing books on the ufo

1177
00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:37,280
phenomena i think you'd be like

1178
00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:39,200
propelled right to the top of the heap

1179
00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:41,760
of people that they go to for answers

1180
00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:44,960
about ufology i think you'd be right up

1181
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:47,040
there preston because it's the people

1182
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:48,960
who've written the book book and done

1183
00:44:53,589 --> 00:44:51,760
the research and interviewed the people

1184
00:44:55,270 --> 00:44:53,599
those are the people people go to they

1185
00:44:57,190 --> 00:44:55,280
don't go to people like me that sit and

1186
00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:57,200
yak every week about it interview you

1187
00:45:01,510 --> 00:44:59,520
guys i mean i'm not that i'm not special

1188
00:45:04,150 --> 00:45:01,520
you know but i think

1189
00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:04,160
i think you guys are very very special

1190
00:45:07,750 --> 00:45:06,000
because you've taken the time to sit

1191
00:45:10,630 --> 00:45:07,760
down and catalog

1192
00:45:13,349 --> 00:45:10,640
and uh digest and and

1193
00:45:15,910 --> 00:45:13,359
you know regurgitate back out on paper

1194
00:45:18,309 --> 00:45:15,920
in a very clear and concise way

1195
00:45:20,309 --> 00:45:18,319
exactly what people have experienced and

1196
00:45:22,710 --> 00:45:20,319
i think that's super important and i

1197
00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:22,720
think your books and all the other books

1198
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:25,280
out there including cheryl costa's book

1199
00:45:29,109 --> 00:45:27,040
the one that's got all the graphs and

1200
00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:29,119
details about all the ufo sightings are

1201
00:45:33,430 --> 00:45:30,160
going to be

1202
00:45:35,589 --> 00:45:33,440
hugely popular when disclosure happens

1203
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:35,599
my dream is for it to happen tomorrow so

1204
00:45:39,829 --> 00:45:37,920
i don't have to you know do what i do

1205
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:39,839
anymore

1206
00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:42,720
but uh you know it's not i can guarantee

1207
00:45:45,829 --> 00:45:44,319
you that and we got at least another

1208
00:45:47,910 --> 00:45:45,839
three years before we can get a new

1209
00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:47,920
president and play and maybe that person

1210
00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:49,280
will do it and

1211
00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:51,920
you know who knows uh and just i'm just

1212
00:45:56,069 --> 00:45:53,599
kind of getting disgusted with the whole

1213
00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:56,079
regular media thing so

1214
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:57,359
i don't know if anything will ever

1215
00:46:01,829 --> 00:45:59,280
happen with us i feel like we're kind of

1216
00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:01,839
being pushed over into the corner

1217
00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:04,079
and uh politics has kind of taken over

1218
00:46:08,710 --> 00:46:07,040
the fray you know yeah but the field is

1219
00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:08,720
evolving it's definitely different than

1220
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:10,960
it was back when i got involved there

1221
00:46:14,710 --> 00:46:12,720
was a lot yeah

1222
00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:14,720
you know a lot more debunking action

1223
00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:15,920
going on

1224
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:18,480
which you don't see as much of

1225
00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:19,920
well i think we're going to see it at

1226
00:46:25,109 --> 00:46:22,960
this mufon symposium

1227
00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:25,119
are you going to be there

1228
00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:27,760
um i have no immediate plans um at this

1229
00:46:32,950 --> 00:46:30,400
point oh well i'm gonna i gotta talk to

1230
00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:32,960
you off air okay

1231
00:46:36,550 --> 00:46:35,040
um all right remind me that don't hang

1232
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:36,560
up in other words i gotta talk to you

1233
00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:39,599
tonight okay um yeah because the mufon

1234
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:41,040
symposium is gonna be very interesting

1235
00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:42,880
because we have a dichotomy of like

1236
00:46:46,390 --> 00:46:45,200
people like corey good going to be there

1237
00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:46,400
tompkins

1238
00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:48,960
mr wood which i think you know mr wood

1239
00:46:53,030 --> 00:46:50,800
pretty well he's down in orange county

1240
00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:53,040
at uh mufon isn't he

1241
00:46:57,670 --> 00:46:55,760
um the guy who did the mj papers am i

1242
00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:57,680
correct on this am i getting all mixed

1243
00:47:02,390 --> 00:46:59,920
up on something or oh that's right bob

1244
00:47:05,109 --> 00:47:02,400
wood robert wood yeah

1245
00:47:07,670 --> 00:47:05,119
yeah robert wood i think he's a speaker

1246
00:47:09,510 --> 00:47:07,680
is it jim wood i can't remember um

1247
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:09,520
anyhow it's just going to be a very

1248
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:11,760
interesting conference because

1249
00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:14,400
like i said on my show on monday which a

1250
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:17,040
lot of people listen to as well i have a

1251
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:19,119
real problem with people who are making

1252
00:47:22,630 --> 00:47:20,880
action figures about themselves and

1253
00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:22,640
trying to break into hollywood about

1254
00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:25,440
their story about ufos i don't mind that

1255
00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:27,680
people have their stories told i don't

1256
00:47:32,550 --> 00:47:30,000
get that's fine with me

1257
00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:32,560
but what bothers me is when we cheapen

1258
00:47:36,309 --> 00:47:35,040
the experience into a marvel comic book

1259
00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:36,319
situation

1260
00:47:41,190 --> 00:47:39,040
that bothers me and that and and that

1261
00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:41,200
scares me because if that's what

1262
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:42,800
hollywood's going to start doing to

1263
00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:43,920
everybody

1264
00:47:47,430 --> 00:47:45,520
whereas

1265
00:47:48,950 --> 00:47:47,440
i i'm i'm a little flipped out about it

1266
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:48,960
i don't know about you have you heard

1267
00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:52,079
that corey good's doing that

1268
00:47:56,630 --> 00:47:54,319
you know i've been asked to count on

1269
00:47:57,910 --> 00:47:56,640
ufo figures and i always shy away from

1270
00:48:00,150 --> 00:47:57,920
it

1271
00:48:01,510 --> 00:48:00,160
but what i always say is you know yeah

1272
00:48:03,910 --> 00:48:01,520
people are free to say what they want

1273
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:03,920
obviously uh but as far as someone's

1274
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:10,069
action figures made out about you and

1275
00:48:15,349 --> 00:48:13,040
having a marketing team to market you to

1276
00:48:16,309 --> 00:48:15,359
have action figures and comic books out

1277
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:16,319
it's just

1278
00:48:20,550 --> 00:48:18,400
i don't know it just bothers the heck

1279
00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:20,560
out of me you know and you don't say

1280
00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:22,400
anything i don't want to hear it

1281
00:48:27,349 --> 00:48:24,640
because i don't want you to get any you

1282
00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:27,359
you know put your toe in anybody's pond

1283
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:28,480
but um

1284
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:31,200
you know the bottom line is for me it's

1285
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:33,520
like it it's a no-brainer that it's just

1286
00:48:36,790 --> 00:48:35,680
going to make us look weird

1287
00:48:39,190 --> 00:48:36,800
you know

1288
00:48:41,349 --> 00:48:39,200
i don't know

1289
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:41,359
i this is a subject i take really

1290
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:43,040
seriously actually

1291
00:48:47,829 --> 00:48:45,359
yeah me too and that's the problem i

1292
00:48:49,109 --> 00:48:47,839
look at that as like it's a real affront

1293
00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:49,119
to to

1294
00:48:51,910 --> 00:48:50,640
and you know what's even worse you know

1295
00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:51,920
this is where i am going to go on a

1296
00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:53,520
little rant for a second what's even

1297
00:48:58,950 --> 00:48:56,480
versus the fact that his experiences

1298
00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:58,960
are not that extraordinary

1299
00:49:02,950 --> 00:49:01,040
compared to some of the people i've

1300
00:49:05,829 --> 00:49:02,960
heard that will never tell their story

1301
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:05,839
in public their stories are absolutely

1302
00:49:11,589 --> 00:49:09,280
mind-bogglingly explosive and he has you

1303
00:49:13,750 --> 00:49:11,599
know so he went to a planet he he did 20

1304
00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:13,760
years in service he saw all kinds of

1305
00:49:18,950 --> 00:49:16,000
horrible and good things he met a couple

1306
00:49:20,309 --> 00:49:18,960
aliens yeah big deal who cares you know

1307
00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:20,319
i mean

1308
00:49:25,750 --> 00:49:22,319
in my book that's just the typical

1309
00:49:27,990 --> 00:49:25,760
abduction you know um but apparently

1310
00:49:30,549 --> 00:49:28,000
people think it's the cat's meow and to

1311
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:30,559
me it's like he's done nothing he didn't

1312
00:49:36,069 --> 00:49:32,960
even fight for us on you know he didn't

1313
00:49:38,470 --> 00:49:36,079
even fight for humanity in his in his

1314
00:49:40,470 --> 00:49:38,480
digs i don't know i i'm staying out of

1315
00:49:42,230 --> 00:49:40,480
it too but the bottom line is i do have

1316
00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:42,240
an opinion about it ever since i heard

1317
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:43,920
about the action figures in comic books

1318
00:49:50,069 --> 00:49:46,240
so i i did have to say that because it

1319
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:50,079
just bugs me to no end so yeah

1320
00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:53,280
i didn't know about the action figures

1321
00:49:57,030 --> 00:49:55,440
the comic book part i was kind of okay

1322
00:49:59,270 --> 00:49:57,040
with but when i heard about the action

1323
00:50:01,030 --> 00:49:59,280
figures i just really went nuts

1324
00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:01,040
i mean that that was like the last straw

1325
00:50:05,109 --> 00:50:03,359
for lorien

1326
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:05,119
that's when i said i don't care who it

1327
00:50:08,309 --> 00:50:06,720
is i'm going to talk about it because i

1328
00:50:09,750 --> 00:50:08,319
can't deal with stuff like that it just

1329
00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:09,760
makes me crazy

1330
00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:11,680
though yeah okay well let's start

1331
00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:13,920
talking about your your new book because

1332
00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:16,160
i'm so excited to be discussing this

1333
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:18,960
it's called inside ufos true accounts of

1334
00:50:23,750 --> 00:50:21,839
contact by preston bennett and boy

1335
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:23,760
preston you know we've only got we've

1336
00:50:27,270 --> 00:50:25,200
only got four minutes before our next

1337
00:50:29,510 --> 00:50:27,280
break can you believe it but in the

1338
00:50:32,710 --> 00:50:29,520
meantime let's start talking about what

1339
00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:32,720
what was your impetus to write this one

1340
00:50:36,870 --> 00:50:34,640
you know i know every one of them has a

1341
00:50:38,470 --> 00:50:36,880
different reason why you write it so why

1342
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:38,480
did this one come out

1343
00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:39,760
right well you know i've written a bunch

1344
00:50:49,270 --> 00:50:40,480
of

1345
00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:49,280
and

1346
00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:51,920
like ufos over california or the other

1347
00:50:56,630 --> 00:50:54,240
states that i've written about um but

1348
00:51:00,069 --> 00:50:56,640
this book is all my own research it's

1349
00:51:02,230 --> 00:51:00,079
100 you know stuff that i've

1350
00:51:05,109 --> 00:51:02,240
gotten from people i've interviewed

1351
00:51:06,870 --> 00:51:05,119
uh who've had very extensive contact

1352
00:51:08,549 --> 00:51:06,880
and i was able to draw i've interviewed

1353
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:08,559
a lot of people

1354
00:51:14,309 --> 00:51:12,319
and uh have a pretty big file of cases

1355
00:51:15,270 --> 00:51:14,319
and was able to pick what i thought were

1356
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:15,280
the more

1357
00:51:20,230 --> 00:51:17,280
extensive or interesting

1358
00:51:21,190 --> 00:51:20,240
or unusual types of cases that i think

1359
00:51:24,309 --> 00:51:21,200
would

1360
00:51:25,829 --> 00:51:24,319
had something to say to the ufo field

1361
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:25,839
so that's why i'm really excited about

1362
00:51:28,950 --> 00:51:27,359
it because it's a little bit different

1363
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:28,960
than your average book about you know

1364
00:51:32,710 --> 00:51:31,040
being abducted by grades

1365
00:51:35,190 --> 00:51:32,720
yeah yeah you know and that's the

1366
00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:35,200
interesting part people have forgotten

1367
00:51:39,030 --> 00:51:37,680
that being contacted has evolved in so

1368
00:51:41,349 --> 00:51:39,040
many ways

1369
00:51:43,589 --> 00:51:41,359
and if i ever do get my book out

1370
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:43,599
um that's what it's all about is about

1371
00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:45,839
the the difference in contact between

1372
00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:48,319
now and back let's say when whitley was

1373
00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:51,359
being contacted and you know most other

1374
00:51:55,510 --> 00:51:53,520
people in the 50s and 60s and how it's

1375
00:51:57,750 --> 00:51:55,520
evolved completely

1376
00:52:00,630 --> 00:51:57,760
over the years and how we are retaining

1377
00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:00,640
much more information about our contact

1378
00:52:05,190 --> 00:52:03,119
so let's start with i'm just going to

1379
00:52:07,510 --> 00:52:05,200
read this this little

1380
00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:07,520
you know synopsis here

1381
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:09,839
on the web page it says while most ufo

1382
00:52:15,670 --> 00:52:13,200
books are rehashes of old cases

1383
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:15,680
inside ufos presents the cutting edge of

1384
00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:18,960
ufo research with 10 all-new original

1385
00:52:24,150 --> 00:52:21,760
cases of extensive contact a wide

1386
00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:24,160
variety of et's are presented including

1387
00:52:31,109 --> 00:52:26,640
various types of grays praying mantis

1388
00:52:33,030 --> 00:52:31,119
type ets humanoids and nordics wow cool

1389
00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:33,040
the witnesses are normally everyday

1390
00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:34,960
people suddenly find themselves in a

1391
00:52:40,470 --> 00:52:38,000
very unusual situation the unique and

1392
00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:40,480
unusual nature of the cases in the book

1393
00:52:46,390 --> 00:52:42,880
will surprise even those well-versed in

1394
00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:46,400
the ufo literature cool i'm very excited

1395
00:52:51,109 --> 00:52:49,119
okay so let's start out with oh let's

1396
00:52:53,910 --> 00:52:51,119
start out with not because we got to hit

1397
00:52:55,349 --> 00:52:53,920
a break here in any second but um

1398
00:52:57,109 --> 00:52:55,359
where can people find it let's start

1399
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:57,119
with that for

1400
00:53:00,470 --> 00:52:59,040
before we hit the break right well

1401
00:53:02,390 --> 00:53:00,480
certainly you can go to the website i

1402
00:53:03,910 --> 00:53:02,400
have excerpts there and you can buy the

1403
00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:03,920
book through the website or just go to

1404
00:53:09,990 --> 00:53:06,559
amazon.com barnes noble

1405
00:53:12,309 --> 00:53:10,000
um other online retailers have it

1406
00:53:13,910 --> 00:53:12,319
now if they buy it at the website can

1407
00:53:16,790 --> 00:53:13,920
they get a um

1408
00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:16,800
you know an autographed copy or

1409
00:53:20,470 --> 00:53:18,880
uh you know i'm gonna have to set that

1410
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:20,480
up because i've gotten a couple of

1411
00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:22,640
requests for that recently that's

1412
00:53:26,829 --> 00:53:25,280
um oh i definitely yeah i definitely

1413
00:53:28,790 --> 00:53:26,839
want an autographed

1414
00:53:30,549 --> 00:53:28,800
copy all right

1415
00:53:32,230 --> 00:53:30,559
if we're gonna do this we gotta do it

1416
00:53:33,349 --> 00:53:32,240
right man i gotta get that autograph

1417
00:53:34,870 --> 00:53:33,359
cause you're gonna like i said you're

1418
00:53:38,069 --> 00:53:34,880
gonna be one of the famous guys when

1419
00:53:40,069 --> 00:53:38,079
this all breaks loose so

1420
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:40,079
yeah i will set that up at this point

1421
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:43,040
i'm not set up for that okay but if

1422
00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:44,880
someone wants to contact me certainly

1423
00:53:48,069 --> 00:53:46,559
i'm not opposed to that sending them an

1424
00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:48,079
autographed copy

1425
00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:50,240
great wonderful i love it okay well

1426
00:53:53,349 --> 00:53:51,440
let's take that break and then the

1427
00:53:55,670 --> 00:53:53,359
minute we get back folks i promise you

1428
00:53:58,510 --> 00:53:55,680
promise you we will talk about inside

1429
00:54:03,190 --> 00:53:58,520
ufos true accounts of contact with

1430
00:54:07,750 --> 00:54:05,190
radio network welcome back everyone to

1431
00:54:10,069 --> 00:54:07,760
the california mufon radio show i'm your

1432
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:10,079
host lorie and fenton we're having a

1433
00:54:13,910 --> 00:54:12,240
blast here tonight i gotta say i very

1434
00:54:15,670 --> 00:54:13,920
seldom get to talk about personal stuff

1435
00:54:18,069 --> 00:54:15,680
and whenever preston gets on here for

1436
00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:18,079
some reason i open right up to him

1437
00:54:22,069 --> 00:54:19,359
because i know he's in the same

1438
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:22,079
situation i'm in where it's kind of like

1439
00:54:27,349 --> 00:54:24,480
oh suddenly the ufos took over my life

1440
00:54:29,589 --> 00:54:27,359
and the aliens do and here we sit and

1441
00:54:31,750 --> 00:54:29,599
luckily enough he turned it into 20

1442
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:31,760
books i've just turned it into yak and

1443
00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:34,319
at you guys on wednesday nights but i

1444
00:54:36,790 --> 00:54:36,240
love his books preston dennett you can

1445
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:36,800
find him at preston

1446
00:54:44,790 --> 00:54:43,349
that's preston dennett with two n's and

1447
00:54:47,670 --> 00:54:44,800
two t's

1448
00:54:49,430 --> 00:54:47,680
dot weebly.com please go there please

1449
00:54:51,670 --> 00:54:49,440
check out his books and you guys support

1450
00:54:53,910 --> 00:54:51,680
preston's work because his books are

1451
00:54:55,990 --> 00:54:53,920
truly phenomenal i have several of them

1452
00:54:57,910 --> 00:54:56,000
in my library and i just love them but

1453
00:55:00,390 --> 00:54:57,920
they're they're very precious to me i

1454
00:55:03,109 --> 00:55:00,400
have a lot of ufo books but prestons are

1455
00:55:03,910 --> 00:55:03,119
well written they're well edited

1456
00:55:06,549 --> 00:55:03,920
they

1457
00:55:08,710 --> 00:55:06,559
the sentences make it it makes sense to

1458
00:55:11,589 --> 00:55:08,720
me i mean i read it and i just go god

1459
00:55:13,829 --> 00:55:11,599
this is very rich it's a very rich

1460
00:55:16,710 --> 00:55:13,839
his style of writing is rich because he

1461
00:55:19,589 --> 00:55:16,720
really takes into account the emotional

1462
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:19,599
aspect of each person's story that he's

1463
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:21,839
writing he just really you can you can

1464
00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:23,520
read it and you can live it while you're

1465
00:55:27,990 --> 00:55:25,440
reading it it's like a well-written

1466
00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:28,000
science fiction book almost but it's

1467
00:55:31,030 --> 00:55:29,760
truth it's the truth of what these

1468
00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:31,040
people have gone through it's just

1469
00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:33,040
absolutely amazing so please read his

1470
00:55:37,109 --> 00:55:34,880
books because you would do yourself

1471
00:55:40,309 --> 00:55:37,119
great service by doing that so go to

1472
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:41,829
and right now we're going to start

1473
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:44,160
talking about inside ufos true accounts

1474
00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:46,880
of contact with extraterrestrials so

1475
00:55:51,270 --> 00:55:49,760
preston which one is your favorite case

1476
00:55:53,270 --> 00:55:51,280
let's start with that first and then

1477
00:55:55,270 --> 00:55:53,280
we'll kind of work our way backwards a

1478
00:55:56,789 --> 00:55:55,280
little bit and let's talk about three or

1479
00:55:59,109 --> 00:55:56,799
four of them

1480
00:56:01,270 --> 00:55:59,119
yeah absolutely um well my favorite case

1481
00:56:03,030 --> 00:56:01,280
is probably the first chapter

1482
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:03,040
um because it's this just a really

1483
00:56:07,990 --> 00:56:05,440
interesting case um with a great witness

1484
00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:08,000
his name is kevin cammon he's a navy

1485
00:56:11,030 --> 00:56:10,160
medic you know a corpsman

1486
00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:11,040
okay

1487
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:13,440
trained observer i'm so a great witness

1488
00:56:17,430 --> 00:56:15,200
right yeah

1489
00:56:19,670 --> 00:56:17,440
and a real nice guy he heard me speaking

1490
00:56:21,270 --> 00:56:19,680
in san diego and came up to me

1491
00:56:22,230 --> 00:56:21,280
afterwards and told me this amazing

1492
00:56:24,630 --> 00:56:22,240
story

1493
00:56:27,030 --> 00:56:24,640
uh i you know did a kind of a

1494
00:56:28,630 --> 00:56:27,040
preliminary interview that night uh

1495
00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:28,640
later interviewed him several times i've

1496
00:56:31,990 --> 00:56:30,480
talked to him for hours and hours and

1497
00:56:34,710 --> 00:56:32,000
hours about this

1498
00:56:36,950 --> 00:56:34,720
so uh i know his case really well

1499
00:56:40,470 --> 00:56:36,960
uh he was based in the philippines this

1500
00:56:41,349 --> 00:56:40,480
was back in 1982 on this navy ship

1501
00:56:45,349 --> 00:56:41,359
okay

1502
00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:45,359
his best friend i'll call him larry uh

1503
00:56:48,630 --> 00:56:46,960
comes up to him one day you know they

1504
00:56:50,470 --> 00:56:48,640
had the same bunk together they bunked

1505
00:56:52,390 --> 00:56:50,480
together larry

1506
00:56:54,150 --> 00:56:52,400
larry was a personnel clerk

1507
00:57:04,230 --> 00:56:54,160
and larry comes up and says oh kevin by

1508
00:57:08,870 --> 00:57:06,789
he tells kevin oh yeah they take me onto

1509
00:57:11,829 --> 00:57:08,880
their ship i've been to their planet to

1510
00:57:13,750 --> 00:57:11,839
other planets and yadda

1511
00:57:15,430 --> 00:57:13,760
and kevin's like no you know i mean he

1512
00:57:16,470 --> 00:57:15,440
believes in ufos but this is just too

1513
00:57:17,510 --> 00:57:16,480
much

1514
00:57:19,829 --> 00:57:17,520
and

1515
00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:19,839
larry comes back a couple of days later

1516
00:57:23,109 --> 00:57:21,520
he says guess what kevin i just went to

1517
00:57:25,270 --> 00:57:23,119
your house my friends took me to your

1518
00:57:27,349 --> 00:57:25,280
house and he proceeds to describe

1519
00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:27,359
kevin's house which is in kinkaku

1520
00:57:32,309 --> 00:57:30,480
illinois thousands of miles away um in

1521
00:57:34,630 --> 00:57:32,319
perfect detail

1522
00:57:38,549 --> 00:57:34,640
uh and what's really weird is all these

1523
00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:38,559
details while correct are 10 15 years in

1524
00:57:42,950 --> 00:57:40,480
the past

1525
00:57:44,950 --> 00:57:42,960
oh my gosh i mean so how do you make

1526
00:57:46,470 --> 00:57:44,960
sense of that it really upset kevin a

1527
00:57:48,470 --> 00:57:46,480
lot because it looked like time travel

1528
00:57:50,630 --> 00:57:48,480
right

1529
00:57:51,589 --> 00:57:50,640
and so he turns to larry's like okay i

1530
00:57:56,710 --> 00:57:51,599
want to

1531
00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:56,720
those are the exact words he used

1532
00:58:00,710 --> 00:57:58,640
and larry's like okay

1533
00:58:02,870 --> 00:58:00,720
but they're not green

1534
00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:02,880
no it turns out they're not

1535
00:58:09,030 --> 00:58:04,559
uh

1536
00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:09,040
turned out actually so it was a day or

1537
00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:11,359
you know just like a little while later

1538
00:58:15,750 --> 00:58:13,200
larry shows up and it's like okay

1539
00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:15,760
they're coming tomorrow um

1540
00:58:18,789 --> 00:58:17,280
they're gonna come and get you and

1541
00:58:21,190 --> 00:58:18,799
kevin's like yeah right

1542
00:58:23,349 --> 00:58:21,200
and the next day comes and larry's there

1543
00:58:25,349 --> 00:58:23,359
okay they're up on deck go up on deck

1544
00:58:27,349 --> 00:58:25,359
and you'll see them kevin's you know in

1545
00:58:29,030 --> 00:58:27,359
their uh cabin

1546
00:58:31,910 --> 00:58:29,040
the deck is just a short distance away

1547
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:31,920
it's about lunchtime high noon

1548
00:58:35,670 --> 00:58:33,280
and uh

1549
00:58:36,950 --> 00:58:35,680
kevin goes up onto the deck and cannot

1550
00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:36,960
believe his eyes

1551
00:58:41,190 --> 00:58:38,960
uh there's this giant ufo right

1552
00:58:43,270 --> 00:58:41,200
alongside the ship you know

1553
00:58:44,789 --> 00:58:43,280
wait wait we gotta stop right there

1554
00:58:47,190 --> 00:58:44,799
because this is where lauren's head

1555
00:58:49,030 --> 00:58:47,200
starts spinning like the exorcist

1556
00:58:51,109 --> 00:58:49,040
because i'm going okay they're on an

1557
00:58:55,030 --> 00:58:51,119
aircraft carrier right

1558
00:58:57,109 --> 00:58:55,040
uh no it's a smaller navy ship 600 feet

1559
00:58:59,910 --> 00:58:57,119
okay it doesn't matter there's still

1560
00:59:01,030 --> 00:58:59,920
like 100 personnel on this thing right

1561
00:59:03,030 --> 00:59:01,040
oh yeah

1562
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:03,040
okay at least okay

1563
00:59:07,670 --> 00:59:05,200
where are all the other people on this

1564
00:59:09,910 --> 00:59:07,680
ship are are they seeing it too that's

1565
00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:09,920
my biggest question

1566
00:59:13,589 --> 00:59:12,400
and uh gosh i wish they did

1567
00:59:14,710 --> 00:59:13,599
but no

1568
00:59:18,950 --> 00:59:14,720
no

1569
00:59:20,950 --> 00:59:18,960
he ended up talking to the aliens about

1570
00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:20,960
this actually they said well we can let

1571
00:59:25,910 --> 00:59:23,760
anyone see us who we want and if we

1572
00:59:28,390 --> 00:59:25,920
don't see it you're not going to see it

1573
00:59:30,710 --> 00:59:28,400
they told him that flat out yeah

1574
00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:30,720
so he and that's what he did he ran to

1575
00:59:34,309 --> 00:59:32,400
the nearest guy the mess cook he

1576
00:59:35,670 --> 00:59:34,319
recognized me grabs his shoulder and

1577
00:59:37,510 --> 00:59:35,680
says look

1578
00:59:42,390 --> 00:59:37,520
and look just mind you this object is

1579
00:59:46,309 --> 00:59:44,710
but i mean it's incredible it's really

1580
00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:46,319
beautiful it's covered with colored

1581
00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:47,200
lights

1582
00:59:52,309 --> 00:59:49,680
uh you know it's this is daytime

1583
00:59:54,069 --> 00:59:52,319
uh so he's screaming at them and they're

1584
00:59:56,069 --> 00:59:54,079
not paying attention to him he's

1585
00:59:58,309 --> 00:59:56,079
grabbing and shaking them and

1586
01:00:00,390 --> 00:59:58,319
just not

1587
01:00:02,390 --> 01:00:00,400
responding at all the next thing he

1588
01:00:04,789 --> 01:00:02,400
knows he's not on the navy ship

1589
01:00:07,030 --> 01:00:04,799
he's looking down at it from above and

1590
01:00:08,710 --> 01:00:07,040
it's receding pretty darn quick

1591
01:00:09,990 --> 01:00:08,720
off into the distance

1592
01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:10,000
and he

1593
01:00:13,990 --> 01:00:11,760
looks up and sees you know metallic

1594
01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:14,000
walls he sees a metal floor kind of like

1595
01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:15,119
a grating

1596
01:00:19,990 --> 01:00:17,440
and realizes he's not

1597
01:00:22,230 --> 01:00:20,000
he's been taken on board right

1598
01:00:25,510 --> 01:00:22,240
yeah so uh he freaks out he's like oh no

1599
01:00:26,950 --> 01:00:25,520
i'm awol and here's a voice

1600
01:00:30,710 --> 01:00:26,960
in

1601
01:00:32,470 --> 01:00:30,720
be worried about but go ahead

1602
01:00:34,230 --> 01:00:32,480
well i interviewed another navy guy he's

1603
01:00:36,950 --> 01:00:34,240
also in the book same exact thing

1604
01:00:38,549 --> 01:00:36,960
happened to him i mean really close and

1605
01:00:40,230 --> 01:00:38,559
he also thought the same thing i was

1606
01:00:41,910 --> 01:00:40,240
like oh no i'm a wall

1607
01:00:44,309 --> 01:00:41,920
and he hears this voice you know kevin

1608
01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:44,319
does and says no

1609
01:00:48,150 --> 01:00:46,319
it's a perfect perfect english a male

1610
01:00:49,750 --> 01:00:48,160
voice it says no they don't even know

1611
01:00:53,270 --> 01:00:49,760
you're gone

1612
01:00:56,150 --> 01:00:53,280
and uh he was too afraid to turn around

1613
01:00:57,910 --> 01:00:56,160
and is looking out the side of the ship

1614
01:00:58,789 --> 01:00:57,920
and it turns transparent wherever he's

1615
01:01:00,309 --> 01:00:58,799
looking

1616
01:01:01,829 --> 01:01:00,319
sort of like there's a window but there

1617
01:01:03,829 --> 01:01:01,839
isn't this is something i've heard

1618
01:01:05,430 --> 01:01:03,839
before but it's a

1619
01:01:06,150 --> 01:01:05,440
weird detail

1620
01:01:08,390 --> 01:01:06,160
and

1621
01:01:10,549 --> 01:01:08,400
so a lot happens you know he says

1622
01:01:13,030 --> 01:01:10,559
he got a little bit confused but what he

1623
01:01:13,829 --> 01:01:13,040
remembers is finding himself in this

1624
01:01:16,630 --> 01:01:13,839
ship

1625
01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:16,640
over his hometown it's daytime

1626
01:01:20,710 --> 01:01:18,960
so again there's this time travel aspect

1627
01:01:22,309 --> 01:01:20,720
because uh it was daytime where he was

1628
01:01:24,630 --> 01:01:22,319
it can't be daytime in the philippines

1629
01:01:27,510 --> 01:01:24,640
and in kinkakee illinois

1630
01:01:29,109 --> 01:01:27,520
right and he's hovering over the church

1631
01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:29,119
lowe's has you covered for all those

1632
01:01:32,950 --> 01:01:30,880
projects on your summer to-do list and

1633
01:01:34,630 --> 01:01:32,960
will even help you save give your home a

1634
01:01:36,470 --> 01:01:34,640
whole new look inside and out with ten

1635
01:01:38,470 --> 01:01:36,480
to forty dollars off paint exterior

1636
01:01:39,990 --> 01:01:38,480
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1637
01:01:42,230 --> 01:01:40,000
add a pop of color to your porch or

1638
01:01:43,990 --> 01:01:42,240
patio with flowers get your choice two

1639
01:01:46,150 --> 01:01:44,000
for ten dollar basic one and a half

1640
01:01:48,309 --> 01:01:46,160
gallon hanging baskets all projects have

1641
01:01:49,750 --> 01:01:48,319
a starting point start with lows paint

1642
01:01:51,630 --> 01:01:49,760
offer valid six twenty one three seven

1643
01:01:53,750 --> 01:01:51,640
five exclusions apply plant offer valid

1644
01:01:57,030 --> 01:01:53,760
628-75 color and selection vary by

1645
01:01:59,190 --> 01:01:57,040
location while supplies last us only

1646
01:02:00,390 --> 01:01:59,200
where's mom teaches and she's in there

1647
01:02:01,510 --> 01:02:00,400
and he can see through the walls of the

1648
01:02:02,870 --> 01:02:01,520
church and she's writing on the

1649
01:02:05,109 --> 01:02:02,880
chalkboard

1650
01:02:07,109 --> 01:02:05,119
and the ship moves a couple of blocks

1651
01:02:09,430 --> 01:02:07,119
over the town to where his father works

1652
01:02:10,870 --> 01:02:09,440
as a banker and again he can see through

1653
01:02:12,789 --> 01:02:10,880
the bank building

1654
01:02:15,030 --> 01:02:12,799
and there's his father having a meeting

1655
01:02:17,109 --> 01:02:15,040
with executives and this voice comes in

1656
01:02:19,190 --> 01:02:17,119
his head says your parents

1657
01:02:22,390 --> 01:02:19,200
are honorable people and they did a good

1658
01:02:28,069 --> 01:02:24,309
like okay you know this is good getting

1659
01:02:29,910 --> 01:02:28,079
confusing there's a shift uh maybe he's

1660
01:02:31,670 --> 01:02:29,920
he doesn't remember what happens next

1661
01:02:33,349 --> 01:02:31,680
but what he does remember is looking

1662
01:02:36,069 --> 01:02:33,359
down through the bottom of the ship this

1663
01:02:38,870 --> 01:02:36,079
time and he sees what looked like

1664
01:02:40,870 --> 01:02:38,880
craters you think okay is this a bombing

1665
01:02:43,030 --> 01:02:40,880
desert area it looks like gray sand it

1666
01:02:45,270 --> 01:02:43,040
looks almost like the moon he's thinking

1667
01:02:46,789 --> 01:02:45,280
and boom he's comes up over the horizon

1668
01:02:49,589 --> 01:02:46,799
and there's the earth

1669
01:02:50,630 --> 01:02:49,599
very small he says he nearly crapped his

1670
01:02:53,030 --> 01:02:50,640
pants

1671
01:02:55,510 --> 01:02:53,040
uh couldn't believe it

1672
01:02:56,950 --> 01:02:55,520
and he started asking them questions

1673
01:02:59,190 --> 01:02:56,960
and this is where it got really

1674
01:03:01,270 --> 01:02:59,200
interesting and his case is what i would

1675
01:03:02,390 --> 01:03:01,280
call an outlier it's different from a

1676
01:03:05,829 --> 01:03:02,400
lot of people

1677
01:03:06,950 --> 01:03:05,839
because he got a lot of information

1678
01:03:08,470 --> 01:03:06,960
and uh

1679
01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:08,480
each question he asked that answered

1680
01:03:14,069 --> 01:03:10,960
instantly he's like where are you from

1681
01:03:16,390 --> 01:03:14,079
and uh suddenly the room which was about

1682
01:03:18,870 --> 01:03:16,400
maybe 30 50 feet across

1683
01:03:20,950 --> 01:03:18,880
doubled or tripled in size it changed

1684
01:03:23,029 --> 01:03:20,960
size it grew

1685
01:03:24,630 --> 01:03:23,039
and turned into a star chart

1686
01:03:27,109 --> 01:03:24,640
three-dimensional

1687
01:03:28,549 --> 01:03:27,119
and you could see our planet you know

1688
01:03:30,309 --> 01:03:28,559
you can see

1689
01:03:32,870 --> 01:03:30,319
the sun and all these different stars

1690
01:03:34,390 --> 01:03:32,880
and way way way off in the distance was

1691
01:03:35,910 --> 01:03:34,400
this tiny little red light it was

1692
01:03:37,349 --> 01:03:35,920
blinking on and off

1693
01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:37,359
they said that's us

1694
01:03:40,630 --> 01:03:39,200
and he's like what's your planet

1695
01:03:41,430 --> 01:03:40,640
they told him

1696
01:03:43,750 --> 01:03:41,440
um

1697
01:03:45,670 --> 01:03:43,760
couldn't remember it it was a very long

1698
01:03:46,870 --> 01:03:45,680
unpronounceable word

1699
01:03:48,870 --> 01:03:46,880
uh and

1700
01:03:50,870 --> 01:03:48,880
they told them all sorts of things they

1701
01:03:53,750 --> 01:03:50,880
told them they speak all the languages

1702
01:03:56,069 --> 01:03:53,760
of our planet fluently they told them

1703
01:03:58,309 --> 01:03:56,079
they're in contact with all the major

1704
01:04:01,589 --> 01:03:58,319
quote major governments

1705
01:04:04,309 --> 01:04:01,599
uh and are trading technology with them

1706
01:04:07,990 --> 01:04:04,319
they told him he asked about roswell

1707
01:04:13,270 --> 01:04:09,829
yes they told him there are other races

1708
01:04:14,630 --> 01:04:13,280
that are in contact uh with us not just

1709
01:04:17,190 --> 01:04:14,640
them

1710
01:04:18,789 --> 01:04:17,200
uh he asked about god and they said we

1711
01:04:20,470 --> 01:04:18,799
can't talk about that

1712
01:04:21,780 --> 01:04:20,480
we won't discuss race religion or

1713
01:04:24,710 --> 01:04:21,790
politics

1714
01:04:27,510 --> 01:04:24,720
[Laughter]

1715
01:04:29,190 --> 01:04:27,520
you to find that pretty funny don't you

1716
01:04:31,589 --> 01:04:29,200
that must been their really that's their

1717
01:04:33,270 --> 01:04:31,599
only sense of humor is to tell us that

1718
01:04:35,270 --> 01:04:33,280
they're going to be like us you know

1719
01:04:37,990 --> 01:04:35,280
we're we draw the line and everything

1720
01:04:40,069 --> 01:04:38,000
you know we could talk about you know

1721
01:04:42,309 --> 01:04:40,079
sex we could talk about anything but

1722
01:04:45,029 --> 01:04:42,319
when you get to raise politics or

1723
01:04:46,710 --> 01:04:45,039
whatever religion forget it buddy you

1724
01:04:49,029 --> 01:04:46,720
know it ain't going to happen i think

1725
01:04:50,309 --> 01:04:49,039
that's funny

1726
01:04:51,589 --> 01:04:50,319
too that really

1727
01:04:53,029 --> 01:04:51,599
kind of i thought it was also

1728
01:04:55,190 --> 01:04:53,039
interesting because we struggle with

1729
01:04:56,710 --> 01:04:55,200
those issues certainly

1730
01:04:58,630 --> 01:04:56,720
well yeah

1731
01:05:00,630 --> 01:04:58,640
they give us a little advice in the

1732
01:05:02,710 --> 01:05:00,640
three areas that we're so screwed up

1733
01:05:04,069 --> 01:05:02,720
around right you know

1734
01:05:06,150 --> 01:05:04,079
yeah well they did give them advice but

1735
01:05:08,150 --> 01:05:06,160
it wasn't about that

1736
01:05:10,470 --> 01:05:08,160
the advice usually falls into three main

1737
01:05:13,670 --> 01:05:10,480
areas i found alternative energy

1738
01:05:15,829 --> 01:05:13,680
alternative spirituality or healing

1739
01:05:19,029 --> 01:05:15,839
and what they told him they told him

1740
01:05:21,109 --> 01:05:19,039
when we started exploding nuclear bombs

1741
01:05:23,109 --> 01:05:21,119
this caused an alarm to go off

1742
01:05:25,430 --> 01:05:23,119
throughout the galaxies and everyone

1743
01:05:27,029 --> 01:05:25,440
came rushing to see us

1744
01:05:29,430 --> 01:05:27,039
uh and that it actually started what

1745
01:05:30,710 --> 01:05:29,440
they called a countdown clock

1746
01:05:33,109 --> 01:05:30,720
oh no

1747
01:05:36,150 --> 01:05:33,119
and they said your destiny will be

1748
01:05:37,750 --> 01:05:36,160
fulfilled and these events will happen

1749
01:05:39,750 --> 01:05:37,760
and they showed him

1750
01:05:41,349 --> 01:05:39,760
and he couldn't tell if this was like

1751
01:05:43,349 --> 01:05:41,359
a movie it looked

1752
01:05:45,750 --> 01:05:43,359
real it looked three-dimensional real

1753
01:05:47,829 --> 01:05:45,760
sure sure i and i've experienced that so

1754
01:05:49,670 --> 01:05:47,839
i know exactly what you're talking about

1755
01:05:50,789 --> 01:05:49,680
i haven't experienced it on a ship i had

1756
01:05:53,270 --> 01:05:50,799
a vision

1757
01:05:55,430 --> 01:05:53,280
that was given to me that i i could have

1758
01:05:57,750 --> 01:05:55,440
sworn i was in it doing everything in

1759
01:06:00,789 --> 01:05:57,760
the vision and living it right

1760
01:06:02,630 --> 01:06:00,799
absolutely real yeah absolutely real i

1761
01:06:04,950 --> 01:06:02,640
mean i wouldn't know the difference if

1762
01:06:06,789 --> 01:06:04,960
someone had said you know if someone

1763
01:06:09,349 --> 01:06:06,799
grabbed my shoulders and in and

1764
01:06:11,190 --> 01:06:09,359
basically kind of woken me out of this

1765
01:06:13,109 --> 01:06:11,200
the physical state i was in which is

1766
01:06:14,069 --> 01:06:13,119
probably just staring into space like an

1767
01:06:15,029 --> 01:06:14,079
idiot

1768
01:06:17,670 --> 01:06:15,039
um

1769
01:06:19,589 --> 01:06:17,680
it would have been like oh i was just in

1770
01:06:21,589 --> 01:06:19,599
another place you know i would have felt

1771
01:06:24,789 --> 01:06:21,599
like i've just been brought back from

1772
01:06:27,190 --> 01:06:24,799
another reality absolutely so i get that

1773
01:06:29,349 --> 01:06:27,200
so anyhow so they they showed him what

1774
01:06:31,990 --> 01:06:29,359
was going to happen to us oh god do i

1775
01:06:33,910 --> 01:06:32,000
want to hear this okay go ahead yeah

1776
01:06:36,230 --> 01:06:33,920
well maybe not

1777
01:06:37,670 --> 01:06:36,240
go ahead i'm ready

1778
01:06:39,910 --> 01:06:37,680
it's their main message it's something

1779
01:06:42,549 --> 01:06:39,920
i've heard from many other people who've

1780
01:06:45,190 --> 01:06:42,559
been taken inside of ufo

1781
01:06:47,270 --> 01:06:45,200
or had face-to-face contact um and they

1782
01:06:48,309 --> 01:06:47,280
said there's all these disasters are

1783
01:06:50,150 --> 01:06:48,319
coming

1784
01:06:51,910 --> 01:06:50,160
and it's like looking outside of a

1785
01:06:54,230 --> 01:06:51,920
window and you saw hurricanes

1786
01:06:55,990 --> 01:06:54,240
and more hurricanes and more hurricanes

1787
01:06:57,270 --> 01:06:56,000
it was mostly hurricanes

1788
01:06:58,549 --> 01:06:57,280
earthquakes

1789
01:07:00,069 --> 01:06:58,559
tornadoes

1790
01:07:03,190 --> 01:07:00,079
landslides

1791
01:07:05,910 --> 01:07:03,200
a couple of mining disasters

1792
01:07:08,150 --> 01:07:05,920
uh all kinds of stuff they actually

1793
01:07:09,910 --> 01:07:08,160
showed him a personal motorcycle

1794
01:07:12,390 --> 01:07:09,920
accident that he would have ended up

1795
01:07:14,950 --> 01:07:12,400
having many years later

1796
01:07:17,029 --> 01:07:14,960
uh which did happen and you'd think he'd

1797
01:07:18,549 --> 01:07:17,039
be smart enough not to ride a motorcycle

1798
01:07:19,589 --> 01:07:18,559
after that right

1799
01:07:21,510 --> 01:07:19,599
right

1800
01:07:23,270 --> 01:07:21,520
i mean it's like okay are you kidding me

1801
01:07:24,870 --> 01:07:23,280
so they come to give you your whole life

1802
01:07:26,710 --> 01:07:24,880
history and you go oh yeah i think i'm

1803
01:07:28,950 --> 01:07:26,720
gonna go out and buy a motorcycle my et

1804
01:07:32,549 --> 01:07:28,960
guys will they'll protect me right you

1805
01:07:34,390 --> 01:07:32,559
know oh come on oh my god anyhow okay

1806
01:07:36,710 --> 01:07:34,400
i'm sorry i just said

1807
01:07:38,230 --> 01:07:36,720
i said i i'm really talking a lot

1808
01:07:40,390 --> 01:07:38,240
tonight because everything you're saying

1809
01:07:43,990 --> 01:07:40,400
is kind of hitting home i like oh my god

1810
01:07:46,309 --> 01:07:44,000
that's so insane so um disasters not us

1811
01:07:49,109 --> 01:07:46,319
blowing ourselves up with atomic nuclear

1812
01:07:50,470 --> 01:07:49,119
weapons or anything like that

1813
01:07:51,349 --> 01:07:50,480
no they didn't show them that they

1814
01:07:53,190 --> 01:07:51,359
certainly

1815
01:07:55,589 --> 01:07:53,200
warned him about it and said

1816
01:07:57,430 --> 01:07:55,599
it was all because of that basically

1817
01:07:58,390 --> 01:07:57,440
um that our environmental destruction

1818
01:08:01,109 --> 01:07:58,400
began

1819
01:08:03,270 --> 01:08:01,119
and did you get the information from a

1820
01:08:05,829 --> 01:08:03,280
lot of people about the fact that the

1821
01:08:08,710 --> 01:08:05,839
time what has happened is when we blew

1822
01:08:11,190 --> 01:08:08,720
up the first nuclear weapon and we sent

1823
01:08:13,029 --> 01:08:11,200
that frequency out throughout the galaxy

1824
01:08:15,430 --> 01:08:13,039
the universe whatever

1825
01:08:17,910 --> 01:08:15,440
um that we were actually messing with

1826
01:08:21,430 --> 01:08:17,920
everybody else's dimensional time space

1827
01:08:23,349 --> 01:08:21,440
or time or or their the gravitational

1828
01:08:25,189 --> 01:08:23,359
whatever holds them together because

1829
01:08:27,189 --> 01:08:25,199
i've heard this from other people's

1830
01:08:29,590 --> 01:08:27,199
accounts and i'm just wondering if you

1831
01:08:31,349 --> 01:08:29,600
heard that particular comment about how

1832
01:08:33,910 --> 01:08:31,359
we're messing with their

1833
01:08:36,390 --> 01:08:33,920
dimensional time space when we blew off

1834
01:08:37,749 --> 01:08:36,400
an atomic weapon

1835
01:08:41,030 --> 01:08:37,759
no i can't say that i've heard that

1836
01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:41,040
specifically uh or in this case but that

1837
01:08:44,789 --> 01:08:42,960
seems to be the gist of it

1838
01:08:46,709 --> 01:08:44,799
because they're very cool yeah because

1839
01:08:49,669 --> 01:08:46,719
how would they even have known about us

1840
01:08:51,990 --> 01:08:49,679
if we weren't somehow effective their

1841
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:52,000
their dimension their wherever they come

1842
01:08:54,950 --> 01:08:53,040
from

1843
01:08:57,030 --> 01:08:54,960
right yeah that was their main message

1844
01:08:59,349 --> 01:08:57,040
and definitely the main message

1845
01:09:02,070 --> 01:08:59,359
that is given to people it's warnings

1846
01:09:04,070 --> 01:09:02,080
usually of nuclear proliferation or even

1847
01:09:06,149 --> 01:09:04,080
pollution and that sort of thing global

1848
01:09:08,149 --> 01:09:06,159
warming environmentalism

1849
01:09:09,349 --> 01:09:08,159
yeah but kevin you know they're telling

1850
01:09:11,910 --> 01:09:09,359
him this

1851
01:09:14,870 --> 01:09:11,920
he's freaking out um he's still not

1852
01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:14,880
having a great time really he's really

1853
01:09:19,030 --> 01:09:17,040
afraid

1854
01:09:21,110 --> 01:09:19,040
but finally you know ask what they look

1855
01:09:23,269 --> 01:09:21,120
like and they said well we're not little

1856
01:09:24,630 --> 01:09:23,279
and we're not green

1857
01:09:25,669 --> 01:09:24,640
and he's like

1858
01:09:28,149 --> 01:09:25,679
okay

1859
01:09:30,309 --> 01:09:28,159
and i said well you know people find our

1860
01:09:31,829 --> 01:09:30,319
appearance frightening

1861
01:09:33,269 --> 01:09:31,839
and but finally

1862
01:09:34,550 --> 01:09:33,279
finally he turns around you know he's

1863
01:09:35,669 --> 01:09:34,560
going to look at them and see what they

1864
01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:35,679
look like

1865
01:09:39,510 --> 01:09:37,600
and in the center of the room is this

1866
01:09:40,950 --> 01:09:39,520
sort of raised platform and on the

1867
01:09:42,070 --> 01:09:40,960
platform are three

1868
01:09:43,669 --> 01:09:42,080
what look like

1869
01:09:45,510 --> 01:09:43,679
stone marble

1870
01:09:49,030 --> 01:09:45,520
chairs or thrones

1871
01:09:51,430 --> 01:09:49,040
with very large circular back rests they

1872
01:09:53,189 --> 01:09:51,440
spin around they swivel and spin around

1873
01:09:56,870 --> 01:09:53,199
and on each of them

1874
01:09:59,430 --> 01:09:56,880
is a praying mantis type e.t

1875
01:10:02,229 --> 01:09:59,440
oh okay

1876
01:10:05,669 --> 01:10:02,239
but that's very intriguing i never heard

1877
01:10:08,390 --> 01:10:05,679
of the thrones before yeah weird right

1878
01:10:10,310 --> 01:10:08,400
now i i'm gonna ask you something and

1879
01:10:11,110 --> 01:10:10,320
you don't have to say yes or no right

1880
01:10:13,750 --> 01:10:11,120
now

1881
01:10:16,709 --> 01:10:13,760
but i am i'm i've got a concept for a

1882
01:10:18,470 --> 01:10:16,719
new book and i think you're the guy to

1883
01:10:20,390 --> 01:10:18,480
write it with me and i just want to

1884
01:10:21,990 --> 01:10:20,400
throw that out at you right now so you

1885
01:10:24,709 --> 01:10:22,000
can think about it okay and i'm gonna do

1886
01:10:26,149 --> 01:10:24,719
it live on air so if you decide not to

1887
01:10:27,669 --> 01:10:26,159
it doesn't matter but i just want

1888
01:10:29,910 --> 01:10:27,679
everybody to know i'm thinking about

1889
01:10:31,990 --> 01:10:29,920
writing a very interesting book and

1890
01:10:34,229 --> 01:10:32,000
preston's the only person i've

1891
01:10:36,310 --> 01:10:34,239
interviewed in a very long time that

1892
01:10:38,390 --> 01:10:36,320
would even get the concept i'm talking

1893
01:10:40,229 --> 01:10:38,400
about and he was probably interviewed

1894
01:10:42,470 --> 01:10:40,239
enough people to help me do more

1895
01:10:44,790 --> 01:10:42,480
research into it so i'm just going to

1896
01:10:45,750 --> 01:10:44,800
throw it out at you now but having said

1897
01:10:48,070 --> 01:10:45,760
that

1898
01:10:50,630 --> 01:10:48,080
um the the part about the thrones

1899
01:10:52,950 --> 01:10:50,640
intrigues me and why did he think they

1900
01:10:55,189 --> 01:10:52,960
were thrown instead of just space chairs

1901
01:10:58,149 --> 01:10:55,199
or a chair at the office or something

1902
01:10:59,669 --> 01:10:58,159
like that did they look at ornate were

1903
01:11:02,470 --> 01:10:59,679
they um

1904
01:11:04,470 --> 01:11:02,480
no they were just kind of white stone he

1905
01:11:06,790 --> 01:11:04,480
said or white marble but

1906
01:11:09,910 --> 01:11:06,800
were ornate in one respect in that the

1907
01:11:12,950 --> 01:11:09,920
backrest was a very large

1908
01:11:13,990 --> 01:11:12,960
not circle exactly but semi-circle

1909
01:11:16,790 --> 01:11:14,000
okay

1910
01:11:21,990 --> 01:11:16,800
oversized

1911
01:11:24,709 --> 01:11:22,000
with arm rests and just with armrests

1912
01:11:28,229 --> 01:11:24,719
doesn't that strike you as odd for a

1913
01:11:30,229 --> 01:11:28,239
praying mantis to have an arm rest

1914
01:11:32,470 --> 01:11:30,239
i mean that just strikes me as the

1915
01:11:34,870 --> 01:11:32,480
oddest thing are you sure now see this

1916
01:11:37,270 --> 01:11:34,880
is the reason i'm asking you this is

1917
01:11:40,310 --> 01:11:37,280
because i'm beginning to wonder if they

1918
01:11:42,470 --> 01:11:40,320
don't let us see what we need to see

1919
01:11:44,470 --> 01:11:42,480
that our brain can still handle with the

1920
01:11:46,950 --> 01:11:44,480
surroundings i mean first of all you're

1921
01:11:49,590 --> 01:11:46,960
looking at a praying mantis now what if

1922
01:11:52,070 --> 01:11:49,600
that chair actually looks like a

1923
01:11:54,709 --> 01:11:52,080
slithering snake wrapping itself around

1924
01:11:56,310 --> 01:11:54,719
the prey math is holding it up you know

1925
01:11:58,709 --> 01:11:56,320
like a big old uh

1926
01:12:01,030 --> 01:11:58,719
amoeba or something you know or uh what

1927
01:12:02,630 --> 01:12:01,040
do they call those things uh an enemy

1928
01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:02,640
you know what if it looks like a giant

1929
01:12:06,470 --> 01:12:04,320
an enemy that's like you know doing

1930
01:12:08,470 --> 01:12:06,480
something really weird and we don't

1931
01:12:10,390 --> 01:12:08,480
understand the concept of it but it's

1932
01:12:13,669 --> 01:12:10,400
their chair okay

1933
01:12:16,630 --> 01:12:13,679
so our mind says oh that is just too

1934
01:12:18,310 --> 01:12:16,640
weird for me to handle and they say okay

1935
01:12:20,310 --> 01:12:18,320
so it's gonna be a stone marble white

1936
01:12:22,950 --> 01:12:20,320
chair instead of a white slithering

1937
01:12:23,990 --> 01:12:22,960
snakey amoeba like a medusa head

1938
01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:24,000
you know

1939
01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:26,320
and maybe that's what's going on here

1940
01:12:29,189 --> 01:12:28,320
because i'm saying to myself preston

1941
01:12:31,910 --> 01:12:29,199
really

1942
01:12:33,750 --> 01:12:31,920
and pray mathis needs arm rest this

1943
01:12:35,430 --> 01:12:33,760
doesn't seem right to me

1944
01:12:38,149 --> 01:12:35,440
anyhow just a thought i'm just throwing

1945
01:12:40,070 --> 01:12:38,159
that out at you okay anyhow certainly

1946
01:12:42,550 --> 01:12:40,080
that's possible because we know they can

1947
01:12:45,110 --> 01:12:42,560
do that if they want oh yeah they can do

1948
01:12:46,149 --> 01:12:45,120
anything see this is the part where

1949
01:12:48,229 --> 01:12:46,159
people

1950
01:12:50,310 --> 01:12:48,239
have a tendency to take everything that

1951
01:12:52,790 --> 01:12:50,320
happens to them during their encounter

1952
01:12:54,390 --> 01:12:52,800
at face value and i'll never forget one

1953
01:12:55,910 --> 01:12:54,400
of the first encounters i ever heard i

1954
01:12:58,070 --> 01:12:55,920
had a friend who said he looked like

1955
01:13:00,149 --> 01:12:58,080
fabio i had a great time with him even

1956
01:13:02,390 --> 01:13:00,159
the being on the table and doing the

1957
01:13:04,550 --> 01:13:02,400
nasty with him was wonderful and then

1958
01:13:06,390 --> 01:13:04,560
his her friend that was with her thought

1959
01:13:07,430 --> 01:13:06,400
she saw the devil and everything was

1960
01:13:09,510 --> 01:13:07,440
horrible

1961
01:13:11,350 --> 01:13:09,520
and it was absolutely

1962
01:13:13,350 --> 01:13:11,360
terrifying for him she was screaming the

1963
01:13:15,510 --> 01:13:13,360
whole time so

1964
01:13:17,830 --> 01:13:15,520
one of them just happened to

1965
01:13:20,390 --> 01:13:17,840
i guess relax enough to let them see

1966
01:13:22,070 --> 01:13:20,400
what her heart's desire was for you know

1967
01:13:24,950 --> 01:13:22,080
a good looking guy

1968
01:13:26,630 --> 01:13:24,960
and they made her happy and content she

1969
01:13:29,110 --> 01:13:26,640
got to see him the other woman just

1970
01:13:31,669 --> 01:13:29,120
could never get beyond the fear i guess

1971
01:13:34,070 --> 01:13:31,679
so she was seeing the devil so there you

1972
01:13:36,149 --> 01:13:34,080
go and from that moment i heard that

1973
01:13:37,270 --> 01:13:36,159
story way way back i mean it's been in

1974
01:13:40,390 --> 01:13:37,280
the 80s

1975
01:13:42,630 --> 01:13:40,400
i realized that there's more going on to

1976
01:13:44,950 --> 01:13:42,640
our concept of what's really happening

1977
01:13:47,189 --> 01:13:44,960
to us than we can ever imagine

1978
01:13:49,590 --> 01:13:47,199
so but i've graduated way beyond that at

1979
01:13:52,950 --> 01:13:49,600
this point but uh still that that same

1980
01:13:54,950 --> 01:13:52,960
concept is is right with the story you

1981
01:13:56,070 --> 01:13:54,960
know about the chair thing because i

1982
01:13:58,149 --> 01:13:56,080
don't think there's a chair with

1983
01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:58,159
armrests there personally that's just my

1984
01:14:03,110 --> 01:14:00,400
opinion from hearing this but anyhow go

1985
01:14:04,709 --> 01:14:03,120
on because it that is very intriguing to

1986
01:14:06,950 --> 01:14:04,719
me so go on

1987
01:14:09,590 --> 01:14:06,960
um yeah well he's a trained observer so

1988
01:14:12,390 --> 01:14:09,600
i tend to believe that oh i believe he

1989
01:14:14,470 --> 01:14:12,400
absolutely saw that i absolutely believe

1990
01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:14,480
he said whether or not it was i mean

1991
01:14:16,870 --> 01:14:16,000
certainly possible was an illusion but

1992
01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:16,880
uh

1993
01:14:20,709 --> 01:14:19,600
or you know a hypnotism type thing who

1994
01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:20,719
knows

1995
01:14:24,229 --> 01:14:22,640
because this field is full of that i've

1996
01:14:26,550 --> 01:14:24,239
certainly heard of gray's masquerading

1997
01:14:40,470 --> 01:14:26,560
around his blonde young

1998
01:14:43,830 --> 01:14:42,390
he was seeing what was really there

1999
01:14:45,350 --> 01:14:43,840
um because if they want to i mean they

2000
01:14:48,070 --> 01:14:45,360
could have shown him oh we're we're

2001
01:14:50,630 --> 01:14:48,080
nordics you know we're beautiful nordics

2002
01:14:52,470 --> 01:14:50,640
well that's true see now that that's

2003
01:14:55,189 --> 01:14:52,480
interesting too that's an interesting

2004
01:14:57,830 --> 01:14:55,199
observation i love it okay

2005
01:14:59,990 --> 01:14:57,840
so okay so you've seen these three

2006
01:15:02,950 --> 01:15:00,000
praying mantis that turn around like in

2007
01:15:05,510 --> 01:15:02,960
the voice right

2008
01:15:07,270 --> 01:15:05,520
exactly yeah just like that which is

2009
01:15:09,110 --> 01:15:07,280
really a great image

2010
01:15:11,830 --> 01:15:09,120
and so he's he's shocked of course

2011
01:15:15,270 --> 01:15:11,840
because they are bone white they're very

2012
01:15:17,990 --> 01:15:15,280
skinny bodies um claw-like hands

2013
01:15:20,310 --> 01:15:18,000
a huge huge huge head they radiated

2014
01:15:22,470 --> 01:15:20,320
intelligence one of their eyeballs he

2015
01:15:24,950 --> 01:15:22,480
says was bigger than his head

2016
01:15:25,910 --> 01:15:24,960
probably about the size of basketball

2017
01:15:28,070 --> 01:15:25,920
wow

2018
01:15:30,149 --> 01:15:28,080
and once one of them stands up takes two

2019
01:15:32,709 --> 01:15:30,159
three steps across the room right next

2020
01:15:37,030 --> 01:15:32,719
to him and he's looking up at it and he

2021
01:15:38,390 --> 01:15:37,040
says preston this thing was 15 feet tall

2022
01:15:40,709 --> 01:15:38,400
oh my god

2023
01:15:42,709 --> 01:15:40,719
i said no kevin it was probably 12.

2024
01:15:44,550 --> 01:15:42,719
that's five no it was probably nine feet

2025
01:15:46,229 --> 01:15:44,560
tall is what i told him like no

2026
01:15:47,510 --> 01:15:46,239
no since it was more than twice my

2027
01:15:48,870 --> 01:15:47,520
height it was

2028
01:15:50,310 --> 01:15:48,880
you know more than the size of a

2029
01:15:52,790 --> 01:15:50,320
basketball board it was about that

2030
01:15:54,470 --> 01:15:52,800
height you said wow

2031
01:15:56,390 --> 01:15:54,480
and this thing was looking down at him

2032
01:15:58,870 --> 01:15:56,400
and it said to him you know it's fussing

2033
01:16:01,110 --> 01:15:58,880
with the console there little oven dials

2034
01:16:02,229 --> 01:16:01,120
and amber lights and blue lights and

2035
01:16:04,390 --> 01:16:02,239
things like this

2036
01:16:07,830 --> 01:16:04,400
it looks down and it says

2037
01:16:09,030 --> 01:16:07,840
so would you like to go to our planet

2038
01:16:10,390 --> 01:16:09,040
and he said

2039
01:16:12,070 --> 01:16:10,400
no

2040
01:16:13,510 --> 01:16:12,080
he won really

2041
01:16:15,990 --> 01:16:13,520
yeah

2042
01:16:18,310 --> 01:16:16,000
he was ready to go home at that point

2043
01:16:19,830 --> 01:16:18,320
yeah probably i would think that just

2044
01:16:21,590 --> 01:16:19,840
seeing him for the first time would be

2045
01:16:23,750 --> 01:16:21,600
enough to put you and put you ready to

2046
01:16:25,270 --> 01:16:23,760
go back home and and forget it ever

2047
01:16:27,030 --> 01:16:25,280
happened right

2048
01:16:29,030 --> 01:16:27,040
i guess so i mean i don't i'd like to

2049
01:16:30,149 --> 01:16:29,040
think that i would say yeah you know

2050
01:16:31,750 --> 01:16:30,159
let's go

2051
01:16:33,270 --> 01:16:31,760
i would probably just

2052
01:16:35,750 --> 01:16:33,280
keel over and have a heart attack and

2053
01:16:37,430 --> 01:16:35,760
die of fear you know that's

2054
01:16:39,430 --> 01:16:37,440
that's my guess

2055
01:16:41,830 --> 01:16:39,440
but anyhow so yeah so he wants to go

2056
01:16:42,630 --> 01:16:41,840
home and then what happened

2057
01:16:44,070 --> 01:16:42,640
uh

2058
01:16:45,830 --> 01:16:44,080
well one

2059
01:16:47,510 --> 01:16:45,840
this guy this

2060
01:16:49,270 --> 01:16:47,520
figure reaches out and touches his

2061
01:16:51,750 --> 01:16:49,280
shoulder he got a good look at his hand

2062
01:16:53,750 --> 01:16:51,760
at that point grabbed his shoulder and

2063
01:16:55,990 --> 01:16:53,760
he just felt this electric shock go

2064
01:16:57,669 --> 01:16:56,000
through him not sure if it was just fear

2065
01:16:58,790 --> 01:16:57,679
or something you know

2066
01:17:01,590 --> 01:16:58,800
more

2067
01:17:02,470 --> 01:17:01,600
right hostile passed out instantly and

2068
01:17:05,990 --> 01:17:02,480
when

2069
01:17:08,149 --> 01:17:06,000
next thing he knows he's in his bunk

2070
01:17:09,910 --> 01:17:08,159
laying in bed on the ship

2071
01:17:12,470 --> 01:17:09,920
sweating profusely um he's

2072
01:17:14,709 --> 01:17:12,480
hyperventilating he gets his bearings

2073
01:17:16,790 --> 01:17:14,719
and no sooner as he you know

2074
01:17:19,189 --> 01:17:16,800
realize he's back on the ship when the

2075
01:17:21,189 --> 01:17:19,199
curtain hiding his bed

2076
01:17:23,510 --> 01:17:21,199
it rips open and there's his friend

2077
01:17:27,260 --> 01:17:23,520
larry who's grinning from ear to ear and

2078
01:17:30,470 --> 01:17:27,270
says so kevin how did you like your ride

2079
01:17:33,430 --> 01:17:30,480
[Laughter]

2080
01:17:36,470 --> 01:17:33,440
oh my god now let me ask you another

2081
01:17:38,229 --> 01:17:36,480
crazy question in all this is larry um

2082
01:17:41,990 --> 01:17:38,239
an alien

2083
01:17:43,030 --> 01:17:42,000
or is he just a a really cognitive uh

2084
01:17:45,510 --> 01:17:43,040
very

2085
01:17:47,669 --> 01:17:45,520
you know um aware

2086
01:17:49,590 --> 01:17:47,679
contactee like are they talking to him

2087
01:17:51,669 --> 01:17:49,600
every day or something

2088
01:17:55,110 --> 01:17:51,679
a slurry dude i'm more curious about

2089
01:17:56,550 --> 01:17:55,120
larry right now than i am your guy

2090
01:17:58,229 --> 01:17:56,560
yeah larry i don't know a whole lot

2091
01:18:00,149 --> 01:17:58,239
about him i mean i've got his name i

2092
01:18:01,669 --> 01:18:00,159
looked for him i couldn't find him

2093
01:18:03,270 --> 01:18:01,679
okay

2094
01:18:05,270 --> 01:18:03,280
i do know he was a

2095
01:18:07,110 --> 01:18:05,280
personnel clerk

2096
01:18:09,990 --> 01:18:07,120
and uh kevin would

2097
01:18:11,510 --> 01:18:10,000
hang out with him and he was had no fear

2098
01:18:14,390 --> 01:18:11,520
this guy larry

2099
01:18:16,709 --> 01:18:14,400
yeah eat anything you know no problem

2100
01:18:21,510 --> 01:18:16,719
with any other cultures fish-eye soup

2101
01:18:25,350 --> 01:18:22,709
oh that's

2102
01:18:27,350 --> 01:18:25,360
an alien right there i'm telling you

2103
01:18:30,310 --> 01:18:27,360
that's funny okay

2104
01:18:32,550 --> 01:18:30,320
well um very cool okay so let's not give

2105
01:18:34,550 --> 01:18:32,560
away too much more i mean you gave away

2106
01:18:36,229 --> 01:18:34,560
some detail but i'm sure there's a lot

2107
01:18:39,030 --> 01:18:36,239
more in there like the description of

2108
01:18:41,189 --> 01:18:39,040
the hand and and even more descriptions

2109
01:18:44,310 --> 01:18:41,199
of what was going on in the room from

2110
01:18:46,470 --> 01:18:44,320
his account so let's move on to another

2111
01:18:48,470 --> 01:18:46,480
um oh my god i can't believe it preston

2112
01:18:51,590 --> 01:18:48,480
we're hitting another break already is

2113
01:18:53,910 --> 01:18:51,600
time really compressed tonight or

2114
01:18:55,590 --> 01:18:53,920
i think the aliens are compressing our

2115
01:18:57,189 --> 01:18:55,600
show this evening

2116
01:18:59,669 --> 01:18:57,199
because every time i look up it's time

2117
01:19:02,229 --> 01:18:59,679
for another break i can't believe it so

2118
01:19:03,750 --> 01:19:02,239
um when we get back let's talk uh a bit

2119
01:19:04,870 --> 01:19:03,760
about um

2120
01:19:06,709 --> 01:19:04,880
uh

2121
01:19:08,709 --> 01:19:06,719
oh well you pick the one you want but i

2122
01:19:10,950 --> 01:19:08,719
do want to get the book on the the

2123
01:19:12,390 --> 01:19:10,960
healings from aliens at some point in

2124
01:19:13,990 --> 01:19:12,400
the end of the show

2125
01:19:15,750 --> 01:19:14,000
i haven't been in the chat room oh you

2126
01:19:17,669 --> 01:19:15,760
guys i'm gonna come in there right now

2127
01:19:19,830 --> 01:19:17,679
and get some questions from preston from

2128
01:19:21,350 --> 01:19:19,840
you guys okay so we'll be right back and

2129
01:19:25,110 --> 01:19:21,360
i'll i promise you guys i'll be in chat

2130
01:19:29,430 --> 01:19:27,350
radio network welcome back everyone to

2131
01:19:31,430 --> 01:19:29,440
the california mufon radio show i'm your

2132
01:19:34,070 --> 01:19:31,440
host lori and fenton we're in the final

2133
01:19:37,110 --> 01:19:34,080
swing of the show tonight as i say the

2134
01:19:38,709 --> 01:19:37,120
last chapter uh let's see i'm getting in

2135
01:19:41,830 --> 01:19:38,719
the chat room right now you guys i'm so

2136
01:19:44,310 --> 01:19:41,840
sorry i've been out all night i just

2137
01:19:45,910 --> 01:19:44,320
that's so nice i just i forget to be

2138
01:19:48,470 --> 01:19:45,920
there and i don't know why i love you

2139
01:19:52,070 --> 01:19:48,480
all oh dirt huffins and skye are in

2140
01:19:54,229 --> 01:19:52,080
there yay hello you guys okay so um here

2141
01:19:56,070 --> 01:19:54,239
we go i'm gonna say hello and what i'd

2142
01:19:58,149 --> 01:19:56,080
like you guys to do in the last five to

2143
01:20:01,750 --> 01:19:58,159
ten minutes of the show you guys can

2144
01:20:03,110 --> 01:20:01,760
give me questions for mr preston bennett

2145
01:20:06,149 --> 01:20:03,120
and

2146
01:20:07,590 --> 01:20:06,159
preston questions please that's what i'm

2147
01:20:08,790 --> 01:20:07,600
typing right now you guys can hear me

2148
01:20:10,550 --> 01:20:08,800
type it away

2149
01:20:12,950 --> 01:20:10,560
just like the old days when you can hear

2150
01:20:15,669 --> 01:20:12,960
me saying hi hi skye hi derhuff it's

2151
01:20:19,030 --> 01:20:15,679
good to see you two houses in there oh

2152
01:20:20,950 --> 01:20:19,040
it's mj me and skye okay wonderful so

2153
01:20:24,470 --> 01:20:20,960
we've got the four of us in there

2154
01:20:25,990 --> 01:20:24,480
and uh yeah questions oh scroll back for

2155
01:20:27,910 --> 01:20:26,000
questions see these guys have been doing

2156
01:20:30,229 --> 01:20:27,920
their job diligently and of course i

2157
01:20:32,390 --> 01:20:30,239
haven't been there

2158
01:20:33,510 --> 01:20:32,400
they've been asking all night of course

2159
01:20:36,390 --> 01:20:33,520
they have

2160
01:20:38,470 --> 01:20:36,400
oh my god okay so preston we got lots of

2161
01:20:40,310 --> 01:20:38,480
questions for you i can't believe it i

2162
01:20:41,830 --> 01:20:40,320
just i roll in here and it's like the

2163
01:20:43,350 --> 01:20:41,840
whole screen is full of questions

2164
01:20:46,229 --> 01:20:43,360
already see

2165
01:20:47,990 --> 01:20:46,239
oh my god that's funny okay so let's

2166
01:20:49,270 --> 01:20:48,000
talk about one more case in this book i

2167
01:20:51,110 --> 01:20:49,280
want to talk a little bit about the

2168
01:20:52,870 --> 01:20:51,120
healing book because i always find that

2169
01:20:54,630 --> 01:20:52,880
book to be so fascinating it's just

2170
01:20:56,630 --> 01:20:54,640
truly one of my favorites

2171
01:20:58,550 --> 01:20:56,640
and uh yeah so

2172
01:21:00,070 --> 01:20:58,560
what's your next favorite case in that

2173
01:21:02,310 --> 01:21:00,080
book

2174
01:21:03,590 --> 01:21:02,320
oh gosh probably the other navy guy i

2175
01:21:04,709 --> 01:21:03,600
would say

2176
01:21:08,709 --> 01:21:04,719
oh yeah

2177
01:21:09,669 --> 01:21:08,719
jim kublebeck an electronics engineer

2178
01:21:11,590 --> 01:21:09,679
okay

2179
01:21:14,630 --> 01:21:11,600
you know trained in uh

2180
01:21:15,430 --> 01:21:14,640
recognizing aircraft part of the uf

2181
01:21:17,590 --> 01:21:15,440
uh

2182
01:21:19,270 --> 01:21:17,600
submarine hunter squadron a great

2183
01:21:21,669 --> 01:21:19,280
witness

2184
01:21:23,830 --> 01:21:21,679
and uh went up on deck of

2185
01:21:26,950 --> 01:21:23,840
the uss valley forge while it was

2186
01:21:29,750 --> 01:21:26,960
stationed in the mediterranean sea

2187
01:21:32,630 --> 01:21:29,760
and saw these ufos these

2188
01:21:34,709 --> 01:21:32,640
amazing lights off on the horizon uh

2189
01:21:35,990 --> 01:21:34,719
runs down below deck calls the bridge

2190
01:21:38,310 --> 01:21:36,000
and says look at the lights do you see

2191
01:21:39,990 --> 01:21:38,320
the lights the bridge says the bridge

2192
01:21:42,229 --> 01:21:40,000
officer says what lights we don't see

2193
01:21:43,750 --> 01:21:42,239
anything what are you talking about i'm

2194
01:21:45,910 --> 01:21:43,760
a complete lie

2195
01:21:49,030 --> 01:21:45,920
so jim hangs the phone up in disgust

2196
01:21:51,430 --> 01:21:49,040
runs to his locker to get his binoculars

2197
01:21:53,510 --> 01:21:51,440
and as he's opening his binoculars up

2198
01:21:55,189 --> 01:21:53,520
his crewmates start kidding him they're

2199
01:21:56,390 --> 01:21:55,199
gonna say oh jim you probably bought

2200
01:21:57,910 --> 01:21:56,400
some rocks

2201
01:21:58,790 --> 01:21:57,920
because everyone got uh

2202
01:22:01,030 --> 01:21:58,800
you know

2203
01:22:02,310 --> 01:22:01,040
and surely they all got ripped off

2204
01:22:04,629 --> 01:22:02,320
and he pulls out his brand new

2205
01:22:06,790 --> 01:22:04,639
binoculars nope they're brand new come

2206
01:22:08,709 --> 01:22:06,800
on deck there's ufos

2207
01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:08,719
and most are like eh

2208
01:22:12,390 --> 01:22:10,400
and they didn't even go but you got

2209
01:22:14,870 --> 01:22:12,400
about 10 people to go up there and look

2210
01:22:16,790 --> 01:22:14,880
at these ufos and they were still there

2211
01:22:18,390 --> 01:22:16,800
these bright orange lights you could

2212
01:22:20,229 --> 01:22:18,400
only see them if you looked directly at

2213
01:22:21,910 --> 01:22:20,239
them if you looked in your periphery

2214
01:22:22,870 --> 01:22:21,920
they were gone

2215
01:22:25,110 --> 01:22:22,880
and uh

2216
01:22:25,990 --> 01:22:25,120
wow yeah weird there were other weird

2217
01:22:27,750 --> 01:22:26,000
things

2218
01:22:29,110 --> 01:22:27,760
he goes below deck again calls the

2219
01:22:30,709 --> 01:22:29,120
bridge they're like

2220
01:22:31,990 --> 01:22:30,719
no no one's up here

2221
01:22:33,510 --> 01:22:32,000
and he's like what what do you mean no

2222
01:22:34,629 --> 01:22:33,520
one's up there you don't see these

2223
01:22:35,830 --> 01:22:34,639
lights they're like what are you talking

2224
01:22:37,590 --> 01:22:35,840
about

2225
01:22:39,669 --> 01:22:37,600
he says i want to talk to the officer in

2226
01:22:42,149 --> 01:22:39,679
charge and finally they said no

2227
01:22:43,830 --> 01:22:42,159
you can't we're damn busy we'll have to

2228
01:22:45,830 --> 01:22:43,840
call back later

2229
01:22:47,990 --> 01:22:45,840
and uh to make a long story short he

2230
01:22:49,590 --> 01:22:48,000
goes back up on deck

2231
01:22:53,669 --> 01:22:49,600
shift turns

2232
01:22:55,990 --> 01:22:53,679
and the lights go away uh that

2233
01:22:57,990 --> 01:22:56,000
the next day he wakes up

2234
01:23:00,390 --> 01:22:58,000
checks the news sheet there's nothing in

2235
01:23:02,870 --> 01:23:00,400
the new sheet he calls up the bridge he

2236
01:23:04,709 --> 01:23:02,880
asks about the ufos last night they're

2237
01:23:06,950 --> 01:23:04,719
like what nope there's nothing in the

2238
01:23:07,990 --> 01:23:06,960
log he has to speak to the officer he

2239
01:23:10,229 --> 01:23:08,000
spoke to

2240
01:23:12,149 --> 01:23:10,239
and the officer says oh that person was

2241
01:23:14,149 --> 01:23:12,159
flown off on shortly

2242
01:23:17,030 --> 01:23:14,159
another lie it's impossible they're in

2243
01:23:18,310 --> 01:23:17,040
the middle of the mediterranean sea

2244
01:23:20,470 --> 01:23:18,320
oh wow

2245
01:23:22,390 --> 01:23:20,480
so he goes here's what gets weird lauren

2246
01:23:23,990 --> 01:23:22,400
he goes back into

2247
01:23:25,430 --> 01:23:24,000
blow deck and he's in the locker room

2248
01:23:27,590 --> 01:23:25,440
again and his

2249
01:23:29,430 --> 01:23:27,600
um opens his locker and his crewmates

2250
01:23:31,590 --> 01:23:29,440
start killing him like ah jim's gonna

2251
01:23:33,270 --> 01:23:31,600
find out he bought a bunch of rocks

2252
01:23:34,390 --> 01:23:33,280
he's like what the heck are you talking

2253
01:23:36,790 --> 01:23:34,400
about

2254
01:23:38,629 --> 01:23:36,800
i showed you these binoculars yesterday

2255
01:23:40,149 --> 01:23:38,639
and chosen the back there's like no you

2256
01:23:43,270 --> 01:23:40,159
didn't he's like well don't you remember

2257
01:23:45,750 --> 01:23:43,280
seeing the ufos you're like what ufos

2258
01:23:47,750 --> 01:23:45,760
oh my god

2259
01:23:50,149 --> 01:23:47,760
they watched it for an hour delorean all

2260
01:23:53,590 --> 01:23:50,159
these guys he finally found out

2261
01:23:56,310 --> 01:23:53,600
this is this is another aspect of this

2262
01:23:59,430 --> 01:23:56,320
whole thing that just really blows my

2263
01:24:00,830 --> 01:23:59,440
mind is how they can wipe stuff out of

2264
01:24:02,550 --> 01:24:00,840
our minds so

2265
01:24:03,270 --> 01:24:02,560
easily um

2266
01:24:55,430 --> 01:24:03,280
i

2267
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:55,440
that and doesn't freak out and go wake

2268
01:25:00,470 --> 01:24:58,320
up everybody in the house okay i mean

2269
01:25:02,470 --> 01:25:00,480
that isn't normal to just back up and go

2270
01:25:03,430 --> 01:25:02,480
oh i'm tired and go to sleep

2271
01:25:07,669 --> 01:25:03,440
you know

2272
01:25:08,790 --> 01:25:07,679
do that unless you're programmed to do

2273
01:25:10,470 --> 01:25:08,800
it okay

2274
01:25:13,189 --> 01:25:10,480
second

2275
01:25:15,910 --> 01:25:13,199
it took me a whole year

2276
01:25:17,350 --> 01:25:15,920
not to forget that signing

2277
01:25:19,189 --> 01:25:17,360
it because if

2278
01:25:22,149 --> 01:25:19,199
every morning i'd wake up and then feel

2279
01:25:24,229 --> 01:25:22,159
like it was gone and i'd have to force

2280
01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:24,239
myself to see what you know i close my

2281
01:25:29,910 --> 01:25:27,040
eyes and make myself see it over and

2282
01:25:33,030 --> 01:25:29,920
over and over again and i felt like

2283
01:25:34,950 --> 01:25:33,040
somebody was going in there every night

2284
01:25:37,110 --> 01:25:34,960
pulling it back out

2285
01:25:39,510 --> 01:25:37,120
i can't explain it to people it's the

2286
01:25:42,149 --> 01:25:39,520
weirdest sensation it's like it was like

2287
01:25:43,830 --> 01:25:42,159
it's a faded memory like over years and

2288
01:25:45,590 --> 01:25:43,840
years of time like you forget what you

2289
01:25:47,189 --> 01:25:45,600
did when you were a kid

2290
01:25:48,870 --> 01:25:47,199
and this is what it felt like every

2291
01:25:51,030 --> 01:25:48,880
morning i'd wake up and it feels like it

2292
01:25:53,350 --> 01:25:51,040
was such a far away memory and it just

2293
01:25:55,430 --> 01:25:53,360
happened like a couple months ago right

2294
01:25:57,270 --> 01:25:55,440
and you could almost not see it anymore

2295
01:25:59,750 --> 01:25:57,280
it was just completely almost gone out

2296
01:26:02,390 --> 01:25:59,760
of my head there was one day i woke up

2297
01:26:04,870 --> 01:26:02,400
and it was gone and it took me until

2298
01:26:07,110 --> 01:26:04,880
about five hours into the day to

2299
01:26:10,390 --> 01:26:07,120
remember it happened again

2300
01:26:12,870 --> 01:26:10,400
so somebody was doing that to me i know

2301
01:26:15,110 --> 01:26:12,880
i wasn't doing it okay

2302
01:26:17,510 --> 01:26:15,120
so that's another whole aspect where you

2303
01:26:19,430 --> 01:26:17,520
say these guys oh yeah there was nothing

2304
01:26:20,709 --> 01:26:19,440
that happened or whatever they just went

2305
01:26:23,270 --> 01:26:20,719
in there and just tweaked them all

2306
01:26:24,790 --> 01:26:23,280
except for him to not remember a darn

2307
01:26:26,790 --> 01:26:24,800
thing that happened

2308
01:26:28,790 --> 01:26:26,800
right right i mean he very possibly

2309
01:26:31,669 --> 01:26:28,800
could have had missing time he denies it

2310
01:26:34,550 --> 01:26:31,679
or but he was he does believe he did

2311
01:26:37,030 --> 01:26:34,560
have contact was taken

2312
01:26:38,550 --> 01:26:37,040
well he be on board presumably um

2313
01:26:40,310 --> 01:26:38,560
because he saw

2314
01:26:41,510 --> 01:26:40,320
human-like people they took him to an

2315
01:26:43,189 --> 01:26:41,520
engine room they talked all about

2316
01:26:44,550 --> 01:26:43,199
alternative energy

2317
01:26:46,709 --> 01:26:44,560
oh cool

2318
01:26:48,070 --> 01:26:46,719
so i love alternative energy

2319
01:26:50,790 --> 01:26:48,080
yeah it was a very interesting case

2320
01:26:52,870 --> 01:26:50,800
ended up building this little sort of

2321
01:26:55,030 --> 01:26:52,880
perpetual motion device after he got

2322
01:26:57,189 --> 01:26:55,040
back from this um

2323
01:26:59,430 --> 01:26:57,199
which is again something that's turned

2324
01:27:02,229 --> 01:26:59,440
up in other cases people are inspired to

2325
01:27:05,270 --> 01:27:02,239
build their own ufo

2326
01:27:07,030 --> 01:27:05,280
so uh that is so cool that is just i

2327
01:27:09,110 --> 01:27:07,040
love it when people do stuff like that

2328
01:27:10,709 --> 01:27:09,120
so he had a very interesting encounter

2329
01:27:13,189 --> 01:27:10,719
too and it did involve a whole lot of

2330
01:27:15,590 --> 01:27:13,199
people on a ship again hey were you at

2331
01:27:17,669 --> 01:27:15,600
you were at the calif uh the california

2332
01:27:19,350 --> 01:27:17,679
mufon symposium two years ago we were

2333
01:27:20,870 --> 01:27:19,360
both there i remember because i got some

2334
01:27:23,990 --> 01:27:20,880
cds from you

2335
01:27:25,110 --> 01:27:24,000
of christine's artwork

2336
01:27:27,669 --> 01:27:25,120
oh yeah

2337
01:27:29,750 --> 01:27:27,679
do you remember the guy on the ship

2338
01:27:32,310 --> 01:27:29,760
from the hangar one episode that walked

2339
01:27:33,430 --> 01:27:32,320
out got locked outside during a blackout

2340
01:27:35,270 --> 01:27:33,440
session

2341
01:27:37,189 --> 01:27:35,280
and the ship came out of the water you

2342
01:27:38,470 --> 01:27:37,199
remember that

2343
01:27:40,870 --> 01:27:38,480
um

2344
01:27:43,189 --> 01:27:40,880
if it's what i'm thinking of yeah

2345
01:27:45,270 --> 01:27:43,199
god that was such a wild case i mean

2346
01:27:47,270 --> 01:27:45,280
that one just blew my mind

2347
01:27:49,590 --> 01:27:47,280
and because but it's basically telling

2348
01:27:51,750 --> 01:27:49,600
me preston is that our government

2349
01:27:53,030 --> 01:27:51,760
knows exactly where these guys are their

2350
01:27:55,189 --> 01:27:53,040
communication with them when they're

2351
01:27:56,709 --> 01:27:55,199
going to be coming out of the water they

2352
01:27:58,229 --> 01:27:56,719
you know they put them in a secret

2353
01:28:00,950 --> 01:27:58,239
mission where they black out all the

2354
01:28:02,310 --> 01:28:00,960
windows and everything and say to them

2355
01:28:04,070 --> 01:28:02,320
well there's something going on you guys

2356
01:28:06,629 --> 01:28:04,080
can't see and so they think it's

2357
01:28:09,270 --> 01:28:06,639
maneuvers of some kind of you know

2358
01:28:11,750 --> 01:28:09,280
super secret submarine or something and

2359
01:28:13,430 --> 01:28:11,760
then um the ufos pop out of the water

2360
01:28:15,830 --> 01:28:13,440
all the time and these guys don't even

2361
01:28:18,950 --> 01:28:15,840
know about it so i'm thinking this is so

2362
01:28:21,990 --> 01:28:18,960
crazy i mean it's just absolutely insane

2363
01:28:24,470 --> 01:28:22,000
i think it's time that um we start

2364
01:28:27,669 --> 01:28:24,480
looking more and more at who's getting

2365
01:28:29,510 --> 01:28:27,679
healed because it's a very interesting

2366
01:28:32,709 --> 01:28:29,520
fact that they're getting healed but i

2367
01:28:33,430 --> 01:28:32,719
want to know why them and why not you or

2368
01:30:12,470 --> 01:28:33,440
i

2369
01:30:14,070 --> 01:30:12,480
teachers

2370
01:30:15,820 --> 01:30:14,080
uh oh

2371
01:30:17,189 --> 01:30:15,830
you know animal rights activists

2372
01:30:18,550 --> 01:30:17,199
[Music]

2373
01:30:23,270 --> 01:30:18,560
these are the so

2374
01:30:27,270 --> 01:30:25,430
they were strangely absent huh no i

2375
01:30:29,750 --> 01:30:27,280
don't know i'd have to i'll have to look

2376
01:30:34,310 --> 01:30:32,629
oh my god that's funny oh my god no

2377
01:30:36,550 --> 01:30:34,320
lawyers either i didn't hear a single

2378
01:30:37,590 --> 01:30:36,560
lawyer in there either

2379
01:30:40,149 --> 01:30:37,600
oh

2380
01:30:41,910 --> 01:30:40,159
god i can't think of a lawyer either no

2381
01:30:43,830 --> 01:30:41,920
that's hilarious

2382
01:30:46,149 --> 01:30:43,840
this is too funny see thank god the

2383
01:30:47,910 --> 01:30:46,159
aliens have good taste in humans i gotta

2384
01:30:51,430 --> 01:30:47,920
say and i hope it's never good taste

2385
01:30:53,430 --> 01:30:51,440
like in deserved man i do i really

2386
01:30:55,110 --> 01:30:53,440
i think people they don't know it i mean

2387
01:30:57,270 --> 01:30:55,120
they're very possibly healing people

2388
01:30:59,270 --> 01:30:57,280
they said there's a certain karmic

2389
01:31:01,270 --> 01:30:59,280
um contract a lot of people have that

2390
01:31:03,270 --> 01:31:01,280
they can't heal them completely one lady

2391
01:31:04,790 --> 01:31:03,280
she had her life saved

2392
01:31:06,390 --> 01:31:04,800
but was left with a lot of injuries

2393
01:31:07,590 --> 01:31:06,400
after a car accident

2394
01:31:10,229 --> 01:31:07,600
and they told her

2395
01:31:12,310 --> 01:31:10,239
you died but you weren't supposed to die

2396
01:31:14,870 --> 01:31:12,320
we fixed you as much as we can but you

2397
01:31:17,350 --> 01:31:14,880
have to go through this karmically

2398
01:31:19,510 --> 01:31:17,360
yeah yeah now i understand it's very

2399
01:31:21,990 --> 01:31:19,520
interesting they've saved me several

2400
01:31:23,990 --> 01:31:22,000
times already if it is them whoever the

2401
01:31:25,990 --> 01:31:24,000
voices that was screaming in my head for

2402
01:31:28,070 --> 01:31:26,000
me to pull to the left or get in this

2403
01:31:30,790 --> 01:31:28,080
lane or do whatever which i've talked

2404
01:31:33,990 --> 01:31:30,800
about a million times on my shows um

2405
01:31:36,310 --> 01:31:34,000
they have truly truly fixed me so or

2406
01:31:39,510 --> 01:31:36,320
kept me alive let's put it that way many

2407
01:31:42,229 --> 01:31:39,520
times and yeah now i know why at the

2408
01:31:44,629 --> 01:31:42,239
times i never knew i never knew why they

2409
01:31:46,550 --> 01:31:44,639
kept saving me is because they knew that

2410
01:31:49,110 --> 01:31:46,560
later i was going to be doing all this

2411
01:31:52,950 --> 01:31:49,120
crazy stuff for them so yeah so that's

2412
01:31:57,590 --> 01:31:55,669
yeah sounds like it yeah there we go

2413
01:31:59,189 --> 01:31:57,600
well anyhow okay we

2414
01:32:00,870 --> 01:31:59,199
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2429
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2430
01:32:31,030 --> 01:32:29,440
got questions for you my friend we've

2431
01:32:32,470 --> 01:32:31,040
only got eight minutes to do them in so

2432
01:32:34,950 --> 01:32:32,480
let's see how fast we can get through

2433
01:32:37,030 --> 01:32:34,960
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2434
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chat be sure to throw it in there right

2435
01:32:41,189 --> 01:32:38,880
now because i'm gonna i've been pasting

2436
01:32:42,629 --> 01:32:41,199
them in and so here's the first one it's

2437
01:32:44,550 --> 01:32:42,639
from durham

2438
01:32:48,070 --> 01:32:44,560
they wanted he wants to know what is

2439
01:32:49,030 --> 01:32:48,080
preston's take on the 1978 mcguire air

2440
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2441
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2442
01:32:54,470 --> 01:32:52,960
ufo alien shooting event

2443
01:32:55,750 --> 01:32:54,480
do you know anything about what he's

2444
01:32:57,830 --> 01:32:55,760
talking about

2445
01:32:59,189 --> 01:32:57,840
oh yeah sure i do this is one of leonard

2446
01:33:01,189 --> 01:32:59,199
stringfield's

2447
01:33:02,870 --> 01:33:01,199
uh crash retrieval

2448
01:33:05,750 --> 01:33:02,880
uh abstracts

2449
01:33:08,550 --> 01:33:05,760
a well-known case and uh

2450
01:33:10,149 --> 01:33:08,560
absolutely legitimate i think that

2451
01:33:13,750 --> 01:33:10,159
probably what we're seeing there you

2452
01:33:16,470 --> 01:33:13,760
know is true or an et was actually uh

2453
01:33:17,990 --> 01:33:16,480
found on an air force base and shot

2454
01:33:20,070 --> 01:33:18,000
i think they're we're shooting these

2455
01:33:22,629 --> 01:33:20,080
things down you know and we're probably

2456
01:33:24,310 --> 01:33:22,639
keeping them captives in air force bases

2457
01:33:25,350 --> 01:33:24,320
uh who knows maybe this thing tried to

2458
01:33:27,430 --> 01:33:25,360
escape

2459
01:33:29,270 --> 01:33:27,440
was being held captive um i don't know

2460
01:33:30,790 --> 01:33:29,280
that's pure speculation

2461
01:33:32,550 --> 01:33:30,800
but yeah i'm trying to remember the

2462
01:33:34,709 --> 01:33:32,560
story wasn't it where the alien was

2463
01:33:36,229 --> 01:33:34,719
trying to escape and um

2464
01:33:38,149 --> 01:33:36,239
right it was found near the wrong way

2465
01:33:39,510 --> 01:33:38,159
wouldn't shoot it or he did shoot it or

2466
01:33:41,510 --> 01:33:39,520
something

2467
01:33:43,590 --> 01:33:41,520
yeah i believe it was shot i believe it

2468
01:33:44,790 --> 01:33:43,600
was one shot that's right yeah he did

2469
01:33:47,350 --> 01:33:44,800
shoot it

2470
01:33:49,270 --> 01:33:47,360
and i believe it was injured as well um

2471
01:33:52,390 --> 01:33:49,280
prior to that i'm not i'd have to look

2472
01:33:54,550 --> 01:33:52,400
it up but it's a well known case i am

2473
01:33:56,070 --> 01:33:54,560
familiar with it it's one of many but i

2474
01:33:57,669 --> 01:33:56,080
think what's interesting about is where

2475
01:33:59,910 --> 01:33:57,679
it took takes place

2476
01:34:02,709 --> 01:33:59,920
which is right over an air force base or

2477
01:34:05,030 --> 01:34:02,719
on actually right on yeah did he escape

2478
01:34:07,030 --> 01:34:05,040
and run into another uh like wasn't

2479
01:34:09,430 --> 01:34:07,040
there another type of base right next to

2480
01:34:11,350 --> 01:34:09,440
it and he went into somebody else's

2481
01:34:14,790 --> 01:34:11,360
territory i'm trying to remember the

2482
01:34:18,629 --> 01:34:14,800
whole story it's not coming back quickly

2483
01:34:21,750 --> 01:34:18,639
the fort dix uh and that's right that's

2484
01:34:23,750 --> 01:34:21,760
right yeah so he went from air force on

2485
01:34:25,990 --> 01:34:23,760
to army property

2486
01:34:27,830 --> 01:34:26,000
and and everybody got involved before i

2487
01:34:30,310 --> 01:34:27,840
remember correctly so i thought that

2488
01:34:31,910 --> 01:34:30,320
yeah they got him right at the fence

2489
01:34:33,350 --> 01:34:31,920
oh yeah because there's too many cases

2490
01:34:36,229 --> 01:34:33,360
just like it

2491
01:34:39,430 --> 01:34:36,239
oh my god too many cases present

2492
01:34:42,149 --> 01:34:39,440
seriously of escaping aliens

2493
01:34:43,350 --> 01:34:42,159
oh my gosh are you kidding i mean oh my

2494
01:34:45,430 --> 01:34:43,360
god

2495
01:34:47,030 --> 01:34:45,440
you can't go ahead i mean leonard

2496
01:34:48,070 --> 01:34:47,040
stringfield

2497
01:34:49,750 --> 01:34:48,080
um

2498
01:34:50,790 --> 01:34:49,760
really only touched the tip of the

2499
01:34:53,830 --> 01:34:50,800
iceberg

2500
01:34:55,910 --> 01:34:53,840
i don't think i've gone anywhere near

2501
01:34:58,629 --> 01:34:55,920
to what's really going on with all of

2502
01:35:02,550 --> 01:34:58,639
this um there was a book called rachel's

2503
01:35:03,590 --> 01:35:02,560
eyes oh yeah i remember that book right

2504
01:35:05,750 --> 01:35:03,600
that had a lot of interesting

2505
01:35:06,550 --> 01:35:05,760
information in it that showed me

2506
01:35:07,990 --> 01:35:06,560
you know

2507
01:35:10,070 --> 01:35:08,000
how often

2508
01:35:11,590 --> 01:35:10,080
these things are crashing and probably a

2509
01:35:13,590 --> 01:35:11,600
lot more than we realize we're shooting

2510
01:35:15,270 --> 01:35:13,600
them down they're crashing

2511
01:35:16,470 --> 01:35:15,280
um we're collecting the aliens as fast

2512
01:35:18,149 --> 01:35:16,480
as we can but

2513
01:35:19,990 --> 01:35:18,159
not all you know they're trying to get

2514
01:35:23,270 --> 01:35:20,000
away as well

2515
01:35:25,590 --> 01:35:23,280
uh so isn't that crazy okay next

2516
01:35:26,790 --> 01:35:25,600
question that's wild okay

2517
01:35:28,229 --> 01:35:26,800
um

2518
01:35:30,790 --> 01:35:28,239
durham also wants to know what is

2519
01:35:32,149 --> 01:35:30,800
preston's take on the anomalous video

2520
01:35:35,110 --> 01:35:32,159
claiming nasa

2521
01:35:37,430 --> 01:35:35,120
alien contact what i don't know about

2522
01:35:39,750 --> 01:35:37,440
this thing you know about it

2523
01:35:41,110 --> 01:35:39,760
well nasa has released quite a bit of

2524
01:35:43,270 --> 01:35:41,120
video or there's a lot of video coming

2525
01:35:46,149 --> 01:35:43,280
from nasa which shows

2526
01:35:48,470 --> 01:35:46,159
ufos i mean from the alien space station

2527
01:35:49,590 --> 01:35:48,480
i mean alien state international space

2528
01:35:52,550 --> 01:35:49,600
station

2529
01:35:55,350 --> 01:35:52,560
uh to uh you know the shuttle

2530
01:35:56,550 --> 01:35:55,360
all kinds of stuff um has footages and

2531
01:35:57,189 --> 01:35:56,560
taken there

2532
01:35:58,629 --> 01:35:57,199
it looks like there's an

2533
01:36:00,709 --> 01:35:58,639
extraterrestrial parade out there i can

2534
01:36:04,470 --> 01:36:00,719
tell you that it's a lot more active i

2535
01:36:07,350 --> 01:36:04,480
do think nasa is absolutely covering up

2536
01:36:09,590 --> 01:36:07,360
they've been caught in so many darn lies

2537
01:36:10,470 --> 01:36:09,600
they have a very spotty record in terms

2538
01:36:12,470 --> 01:36:10,480
of this

2539
01:36:14,550 --> 01:36:12,480
and it's all going to come out

2540
01:36:16,310 --> 01:36:14,560
they've been releasing it slowly if you

2541
01:36:17,830 --> 01:36:16,320
listen to nasa really closely they've

2542
01:36:19,830 --> 01:36:17,840
been saying oh yeah we're finding

2543
01:36:22,950 --> 01:36:19,840
another planet just on another we found

2544
01:36:24,790 --> 01:36:22,960
another in 20 years we're gonna

2545
01:36:26,629 --> 01:36:24,800
be able to tell you whether or not there

2546
01:36:27,910 --> 01:36:26,639
are aliens out there

2547
01:36:29,270 --> 01:36:27,920
and if you read between the lines what

2548
01:36:30,709 --> 01:36:29,280
they're really saying is in 20 years

2549
01:36:33,030 --> 01:36:30,719
we're going to tell you a little bit

2550
01:36:34,149 --> 01:36:33,040
more of what we know

2551
01:36:37,110 --> 01:36:34,159
wow

2552
01:36:39,430 --> 01:36:37,120
there's ufos on the moon we know this

2553
01:36:41,750 --> 01:36:39,440
oh there's enough

2554
01:36:45,109 --> 01:36:41,760
yeah it's a mess

2555
01:36:47,830 --> 01:36:45,119
yeah no it's that very interesting okay

2556
01:36:49,590 --> 01:36:47,840
nasa is on my naughty list for sure

2557
01:36:50,870 --> 01:36:49,600
yeah yeah you know you're absolutely

2558
01:36:54,149 --> 01:36:50,880
right yeah

2559
01:36:56,390 --> 01:36:54,159
okay sky 33 says uh how did they

2560
01:36:58,229 --> 01:36:56,400
communicate verbally or telepathically

2561
01:37:00,070 --> 01:36:58,239
she's referring back to the story about

2562
01:37:02,550 --> 01:37:00,080
the praying mantises

2563
01:37:08,870 --> 01:37:02,560
and did anything odd or different happen

2564
01:37:11,270 --> 01:37:08,880
to him after his experiences okay and uh

2565
01:37:14,149 --> 01:37:11,280
i'm not sure about this part but she

2566
01:37:16,709 --> 01:37:14,159
wants to know also what color was his

2567
01:37:19,030 --> 01:37:16,719
the light the ball whatever it was what

2568
01:37:21,590 --> 01:37:19,040
color was it

2569
01:37:24,709 --> 01:37:21,600
uh i'm not sure

2570
01:37:27,030 --> 01:37:24,719
oh the orb i saw was white um

2571
01:37:28,790 --> 01:37:27,040
oh okay there we go i think that's what

2572
01:37:32,470 --> 01:37:28,800
she's talking about okay let's go back

2573
01:37:33,590 --> 01:37:32,480
to the communication from the guy um

2574
01:37:35,830 --> 01:37:33,600
the ship

2575
01:37:38,149 --> 01:37:35,840
telepathy it's always telepathy always

2576
01:37:41,669 --> 01:37:38,159
telepathy and even if you're french they

2577
01:37:45,590 --> 01:37:43,350
that's so true

2578
01:37:48,229 --> 01:37:45,600
you know i mean people don't get it but

2579
01:37:49,990 --> 01:37:48,239
these guys speak to everybody in

2580
01:37:52,310 --> 01:37:50,000
whatever language they can understand of

2581
01:37:54,310 --> 01:37:52,320
course you know it's pretty easy uh so

2582
01:37:56,790 --> 01:37:54,320
did anything odd or different happen to

2583
01:37:58,470 --> 01:37:56,800
him after his experiences on that ship

2584
01:38:01,189 --> 01:37:58,480
and when he got back to the

2585
01:38:03,350 --> 01:38:01,199
you know the the aircraft carrier

2586
01:38:05,030 --> 01:38:03,360
or the vote or whatever

2587
01:38:05,740 --> 01:38:05,040
not really he he forgot a lot of the

2588
01:38:06,950 --> 01:38:05,750
experience

2589
01:38:09,669 --> 01:38:06,960
[Music]

2590
01:38:11,830 --> 01:38:09,679
he no longer was friends with larry um

2591
01:38:15,669 --> 01:38:11,840
wouldn't talk to him

2592
01:38:17,350 --> 01:38:15,679
really why did he tell you why

2593
01:38:21,350 --> 01:38:17,360
yeah he well he regrets it now but he

2594
01:38:23,510 --> 01:38:21,360
was very upset he's very traumatized

2595
01:38:24,550 --> 01:38:23,520
and didn't ask for that and could i mean

2596
01:38:26,149 --> 01:38:24,560
but he says

2597
01:38:29,430 --> 01:38:26,159
well he did ask for it but wasn't

2598
01:38:35,270 --> 01:38:32,550
my it i felt like he was misled

2599
01:38:37,510 --> 01:38:35,280
yeah well there is that too yeah it's a

2600
01:38:38,629 --> 01:38:37,520
lot more than you you really asked for

2601
01:38:42,310 --> 01:38:38,639
i'm sure

2602
01:38:43,910 --> 01:38:42,320
so um okay carol's question is again i

2603
01:38:46,149 --> 01:38:43,920
no this is carol's first question that

2604
01:38:48,629 --> 01:38:46,159
was sky and durham before

2605
01:38:51,270 --> 01:38:48,639
carol wants to know um

2606
01:38:54,149 --> 01:38:51,280
i understand that preston did a stand-up

2607
01:38:57,109 --> 01:38:54,159
ufo oriented gig recently at the los

2608
01:38:58,950 --> 01:38:57,119
angeles area and it was a huge hit no

2609
01:39:02,149 --> 01:38:58,960
giggle factor will he do more in the

2610
01:39:04,229 --> 01:39:02,159
future what is she talking about preston

2611
01:39:06,709 --> 01:39:04,239
oh i know i think it must be that thing

2612
01:39:08,709 --> 01:39:06,719
i did at the lyric cafe

2613
01:39:12,390 --> 01:39:08,719
and i did not realize i was getting into

2614
01:39:13,350 --> 01:39:12,400
a stand-up routine honest to god

2615
01:39:15,830 --> 01:39:13,360
it was

2616
01:39:18,149 --> 01:39:15,840
a bunch of stand-up comedians and uh

2617
01:39:20,310 --> 01:39:18,159
sort of a vaudeville act so there was

2618
01:39:22,390 --> 01:39:20,320
music there was stand-up comedians there

2619
01:39:24,070 --> 01:39:22,400
was you know a singer

2620
01:39:26,790 --> 01:39:24,080
and i came on there and actually talked

2621
01:39:28,629 --> 01:39:26,800
about out of body experiences

2622
01:39:31,270 --> 01:39:28,639
so i made it a little humorous just to

2623
01:39:33,510 --> 01:39:31,280
fit in um but it was a lot of fun and

2624
01:39:36,390 --> 01:39:33,520
very different you know you're at all my

2625
01:39:38,390 --> 01:39:36,400
god that's wonderful i'm so glad you did

2626
01:39:40,390 --> 01:39:38,400
that you know because that's the way to

2627
01:39:42,790 --> 01:39:40,400
get to people is to make them laugh you

2628
01:39:44,310 --> 01:39:42,800
know make them happy make them feel good

2629
01:39:45,990 --> 01:39:44,320
and then they are actually open to

2630
01:39:48,070 --> 01:39:46,000
hearing what you have to say you know

2631
01:39:51,430 --> 01:39:48,080
that's why george carlin was so good at

2632
01:39:54,470 --> 01:39:51,440
what he did he threw so many political

2633
01:39:56,550 --> 01:39:54,480
agendas into his topics and he was

2634
01:39:58,229 --> 01:39:56,560
he was so wonderful you know and i'm

2635
01:40:00,310 --> 01:39:58,239
sure you're going to be like our george

2636
01:40:01,270 --> 01:40:00,320
carlin of the ufo community i think it's

2637
01:40:04,310 --> 01:40:01,280
great

2638
01:40:07,350 --> 01:40:04,320
and um oh um last question and then

2639
01:40:09,430 --> 01:40:07,360
we've got to go is sky 33 also wants to

2640
01:40:11,669 --> 01:40:09,440
know what are preston's thoughts on the

2641
01:40:12,470 --> 01:40:11,679
alan godfrey case

2642
01:40:13,990 --> 01:40:12,480
oh

2643
01:40:16,310 --> 01:40:14,000
if that's the guy i'm thinking of the

2644
01:40:18,310 --> 01:40:16,320
police officer in england who saw a ufo

2645
01:40:19,590 --> 01:40:18,320
and had an abduction yeah that's alan

2646
01:40:21,430 --> 01:40:19,600
godfrey

2647
01:40:23,910 --> 01:40:21,440
boy my heart goes out to him

2648
01:40:25,750 --> 01:40:23,920
what a case this guy's a police officer

2649
01:40:27,109 --> 01:40:25,760
sees this ufo

2650
01:40:29,990 --> 01:40:27,119
uh tells

2651
01:40:32,629 --> 01:40:30,000
his fellow officers his superiors and

2652
01:40:34,870 --> 01:40:32,639
gets mercilessly ridiculed even though

2653
01:40:37,910 --> 01:40:34,880
there's physical evidence even though a

2654
01:40:39,590 --> 01:40:37,920
bunch of people in the area saw ufos on

2655
01:40:41,669 --> 01:40:39,600
that same night

2656
01:40:46,310 --> 01:40:41,679
the ridicule got so bad that his

2657
01:40:48,229 --> 01:40:46,320
superiors asked him to resign he refused

2658
01:40:49,669 --> 01:40:48,239
they took his police car away gave him a

2659
01:40:54,470 --> 01:40:49,679
bicycle

2660
01:40:59,270 --> 01:40:56,950
wait is he suing them or getting his job

2661
01:41:00,950 --> 01:40:59,280
back and everything or what

2662
01:41:03,430 --> 01:41:00,960
this was some time ago and this is not

2663
01:41:05,590 --> 01:41:03,440
the only person who's you know suffered

2664
01:41:06,950 --> 01:41:05,600
career-wise as a result of having an

2665
01:41:08,390 --> 01:41:06,960
abduction

2666
01:41:10,390 --> 01:41:08,400
because he later did find out he was

2667
01:41:11,830 --> 01:41:10,400
actually abducted he was healed of

2668
01:41:14,149 --> 01:41:11,840
infertility

2669
01:41:16,229 --> 01:41:14,159
um he was not able to have children and

2670
01:41:17,590 --> 01:41:16,239
suddenly his wife is pregnant

2671
01:41:19,510 --> 01:41:17,600
and he's like what are you doing are you

2672
01:41:21,510 --> 01:41:19,520
sleeping around and she's like no honest

2673
01:41:22,790 --> 01:41:21,520
to god

2674
01:41:24,790 --> 01:41:22,800
and he goes to the doctor and his

2675
01:41:27,109 --> 01:41:24,800
doctor's like oh my god you know you're

2676
01:41:30,310 --> 01:41:27,119
i don't know how to explain this but uh

2677
01:41:32,629 --> 01:41:30,320
oh my god that is so freaking wild i

2678
01:41:35,189 --> 01:41:32,639
love it well preston on that note we've

2679
01:41:37,830 --> 01:41:35,199
got to go but you guys please please

2680
01:41:39,590 --> 01:41:37,840
please i'm telling you i don't do this

2681
01:41:42,229 --> 01:41:39,600
often you know i don't but i'm telling

2682
01:41:44,390 --> 01:41:42,239
you buy preston's books they are amazing

2683
01:41:46,310 --> 01:41:44,400
keep them preston is going to be one of

2684
01:41:47,990 --> 01:41:46,320
the guys out there in the future that

2685
01:41:49,910 --> 01:41:48,000
people are going to look to and go yep

2686
01:41:52,470 --> 01:41:49,920
yep he had it right all along look at

2687
01:41:55,510 --> 01:41:52,480
all these cases he's done his research

2688
01:41:57,750 --> 01:41:55,520
it's prestondent.weebly.com

2689
01:41:59,669 --> 01:41:57,760
please go there please support him he's

2690
01:42:01,669 --> 01:41:59,679
one of my favorite authors in the ufo

2691
01:42:02,550 --> 01:42:01,679
community and he is so

2692
01:42:04,790 --> 01:42:02,560
um

2693
01:42:06,310 --> 01:42:04,800
not that he's overlooked but he

2694
01:42:08,790 --> 01:42:06,320
shouldn't be overlooked that's number

2695
01:42:10,709 --> 01:42:08,800
one and number two is you guys have no

2696
01:42:13,510 --> 01:42:10,719
idea what a treasure he is for our

2697
01:42:15,430 --> 01:42:13,520
community he truly is so please support

2698
01:42:17,669 --> 01:42:15,440
him i really would appreciate it if you

2699
01:42:20,149 --> 01:42:17,679
would so there you go and i'll see you

2700
01:42:23,030 --> 01:42:20,159
guys hopefully next week and let me see

2701
01:42:25,430 --> 01:42:23,040
if i even know who my guest is i don't

2702
01:42:27,510 --> 01:42:25,440
it probably is supposed to be ufo jim

2703
01:42:30,229 --> 01:42:27,520
and stephen bassett that's what my guess

2704
01:42:32,229 --> 01:42:30,239
is so anyhow you guys have a great night

2705
01:42:34,310 --> 01:42:32,239
and preston thank you so much for being

2706
01:42:36,629 --> 01:42:34,320
with me i appreciate it

2707
01:42:38,470 --> 01:42:36,639
hey thank you it's always a pleasure

2708
01:42:40,629 --> 01:42:38,480
great thanks good night everybody we'll

2709
01:42:42,550 --> 01:42:40,639
see you next time

2710
01:42:44,550 --> 01:42:42,560
celebrate the holiday with great savings